Windows 10: Windows 10 Wiki FAQs

Microsoft Community: Wiki Article

 

Interesting article. It does bring up, again, the question of support. Does a "machine" mean the OEM box? Home grown? Same MAC address? What identifies "machine"?

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What does lifetime of the device mean?
This is still being debated, but the logical conclusion is as long as the machine is operable, it will continue to support it with updates. So, if the machine still works 5 or 10 years from now, revisions and updates to Windows 10 will be made available to it.

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Need help URGENT

What are the editions of Windows 10 available?

What are the editions of Windows 10 available?

windows-10-faq

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-faq

 

Is there a Windows 10 tutorial that is NOT Wiki? I don't exactly trust Wiki.

The 'book' linked by DaveM is a Microsoft publication .

The two sites I linked to do not have anything to do with Wiki, and they are well regarded for their accuracy,

and highly respected.

It's somewhat ironic that you choose to take the suggestion of one of the most curt people on these forums

while refusing to even have a look at the non-Wiki sites offered by others.

Cut your own nose to spite your face if you insist.

Oh! And by the way. Be very careful out there in the wild. Several very well informed members of this community

publish on non-Wiki sites as well as Wiki, but don't promote their dirty little secret while on those other sites.

The only way to discover who they are is to frequent these forums.

[EDIT: I was searching for the hows and whys of a couple of new Compatibility settings yesterday, and found

a genuine MS employee, who professes to be on the development team hanging out at Reddit, of all places.

Fancy that ! Even people on the development team won't hang out here.

Think I may have to lodge a complaint through the 'Feedback app' .

- Also... Hot off the press. Turkey has banned Wikipedia. (Rarely use it myself, but glad I'm not in Turkey. ) ]

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You beat me to the punch*cry
I was about to ask the same question.
I'm running the TP on two old machines. One 32 bit and I 64 bit.
These machines both had Win 7 on them and served faithfully...............
I jump to Win10 and a HDD dies, or a mobo goes south..... maybe a PSU takes a dive.
Life of the device???
Somebody gotta define when "DO NOT RESUSITATE" applies or I'm not gonna play *chuckle

 

Maybe the MS Legal Beagles will offer a Living Will option in the upgrade! *Roflmao2

I still think it will be the MAC address, just like banks and other very security conscious sites. Like when you use a new or different box to pay a bill or something, you get that "we don't recognize your device" crap, and make you answer a bunch of security questions, like the name of your first dog!

So maybe the answer is, when the motherboard melts, end of device life!

 

. . .Of that specific computer. . .not you, in my case that what be really short. . .*Smile

 

"So maybe the answer is, when the motherboard melts, end of device life!"
That I could live with............. pretty good odds!

 

I think that's a good definition of end of life and you should have the honor of notifying MS that we'll accept no less, after all, it was your idea.

 

The answer is: This is still being debated (sic at Microsoft)

I don't think it will differ much from the current licensing which mostly defines a machine as the mother board. You can part and parcel just about every other component and MS will activate the license, through phone if necessary. A new Mother board is essentially a new machine, isn't it?

Back when it was fun to do, I upgraded CPUs and never had a OS licensing issue.

My take on this: Wait until they figure out how to codify life of the machine - there are more devices than PCs involved, so the legal beagles have many pages to write.

I'll never figure out the legalese, so IF an issue comes up, I'll end up calling MS anyway. They'll tell me what they think and I'll tell them what I think. I've never had an issue with activation through support - they always help me out when the software acts up.

Bill
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I agree with all the above..... Maybe I'll just Tweet the whole thread to Terry Myerson!

 

["My take on this: Wait until they figure out how to codify life of the machine - there are more devices that PC involved, so the legal beagles have many pages to write."]

Tomcat thinks when "the motherboard melts" would be a good ending and I'm not sure but he may take that to MS.
Make the definition one sentence and fire the legal beagles............... just think of the cost savings and the amount of wrangling, phone bills, service reps, ad infinite, eliminated*Biggrin
Sometimes I'm so damned smart I make myself sick...*Huh

 

What if I were to upgrade my motherboard? Would the life of my device end?

 

I think that will be the biggest contender.

Sometimes you can replace a motherboard if it's "similar" enough.

I changed one a few years ago. Mobo died in an Intel machine. It was obsolete and I couldn't find one. An i3core CPU and other expensive left me searching. An online surplus outfit had a surplus Dell board that would take the i3 cpu.
To reactivate that I was on the phone around the world several times but the finally activated it.
YMMV

 

Chuck, that's the issue. If you buy a new car, the warranty is non-transferable to the new car from the old. There has to be something that identifies the "box" Win 10 is licensed to. Otherwise, every piece, every component could be replaced and you could still claim it as the original device. I doubt MS or anybody would agree to that. IMO, if you replace the motherboard, and by default the MAC, you're starting over. I know, there are ways to change the MAC address, but I doubt that would fly. I'd love to hear others opinions on this.