Windows 10: Windows 7 to 10 upgrade: Possible activation conflict when selling PC?

Discus and support Windows 7 to 10 upgrade: Possible activation conflict when selling PC? in Windows 10 Updates and Activation to solve the problem; I have Windows 7 Ultimate Retail on a PC and upgraded the PC to 10 for free. There is a 10 entitlement based on my 7 license and associated with that... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Updates and Activation' started by Oubadah, Aug 9, 2016.

  1. Oubadah Win User

    Windows 7 to 10 upgrade: Possible activation conflict when selling PC?


    I have Windows 7 Ultimate Retail on a PC and upgraded the PC to 10 for free. There is a 10 entitlement based on my 7 license and associated with that PC. While I'm using the free 10 license on that PC, I'm not supposed to be using the 7 license on any other PC (incidentally, what happens if you do that?).

    Supposing I sell the hardware, and then install my 7 license on a new set of hardware. Then the person who I sold the old to installs 10, and it will immediately activate because it has a digital entitlement. An entitlement based off of my 7 retail license, which I'm still using on a different machine. Does this mean there will be an activation conflict? Will someone get deactivated or fail to activate? If so, who?

    :)
     
    Oubadah, Aug 9, 2016
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  2. Windows 10 Home 64-bit not activate after clean install from cd on activated Windows 10 Pro .

    Your windows 7 ultimate key was tied to windows 10 pro when you upgraded.

    once it was activated then your hardware profile is now on the Microsoft server

    Your same hardware need no key for new installs of windows 10 pro.

    32/64 bit totally irrelevant here they are inter-changeable.

    to go from pro to home you will need a new key

    or else reinstall win 7 and activate it and then upgrade to w10 home

    But why go to home ver if you already had pro activated??

    home sell for $110 pro sell for $199 and home has less features.
     
    TimShaw2014, Aug 9, 2016
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  3. Windows 10 activation error 0xc004f050

    I just called, was told two very confusing and conflicting things. I was told that I must upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8 in order to activate. When I told the rep that I did not upgrade but did a clean install of Win 10 on a blank disk but only have
    a Win 7 product key, he said wait 24 to 48 hours and it will activate. Then I asked for confirmation that Win 10 would activate with the Win 7 key, and he said again I had to upgrade 7 to 8 and then to 10.

    Get Windows 10 OS | Shop & Buy Windows 10 Devices | Check for Windows Updates

    The upgrade site however only says that Windows update must be enabled in order to reserve a copy. What it sounds like is I have to find some way to install windows 7 again, and let windows update handle the key registration/activation. I really hope the
    activation servers are just overloaded at the moment.
     
    sanden shelton, Aug 9, 2016
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  4. NavyLCDR New Member

    Windows 7 to 10 upgrade: Possible activation conflict when selling PC?

    There won't be any activation problems. When you have a retail license for Windows you have two options when you sell the computer:

    1. Remove Windows from it, sell it without Windows installed, and keep your retail Windows license for use on another computer.
    OR
    2. Sell it with the Windows installed and provide the buyer with the retail license and product key for Windows.

    It is not your problem that Microsoft has not provided a way to permanently deactivate Windows 10 on the computer you are selling and, therefore, if you choose to sell it bare with no Windows installed on it, it may affect your ability to use your Windows 7 product key in only one way - the next time you use your Windows 7 product key you might have to use phone activation and tell the computer voice that you have it installed on only one computer. And that would happen regardless of whether or not you upgraded the previous computer to Windows 10 because Microsoft has never provided a way to move the record of activation from their servers (all you can do is remove the product key from the local computer).

    If the buyer installs Windows 10 on it and uses the old digital license to run it without their own license for Windows, it is the buyer that is responsible for that, not you. On Microsoft activation servers - the digital license for Windows 10 from an upgrade is tied only to the computer it was installed on - not to the Windows 7/8/8.1 license that it came from. It is only repeated use of the actual Windows 7/8/8.1 product key that gets it flagged to require phone in activation - not the repeated activation of Windows 10 with it's own digital license.
     
    NavyLCDR, Aug 9, 2016
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  5. cereberus Win User
    Yeah - it is worth noting the EULA says you can transfer a windows 10 to new pc if retail or you upgraded from retail, and only says you have to remove it from old PC. So long as OP does that, OP is in full compliance with EULA.

    In fact, I do not know of a way of removing a digital licence once established. I did an experiment on a pc that was upgraded from window 8.1 retail that now had a digital licence.

    I used slmgr /upk to remove the product key licence whilst in windows 10 and then reinstalled 8.1. It did not activate.

    I then reinstalled windows 10 and it did activate. So my conclusion is that slmgr /upk does not work for digital licences (although I had little doubt that it would work).

    You almost get the impression MS do not really care, so long as it meets it vision to reach one billion installs.
     
    cereberus, Apr 5, 2018
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