Windows 10: Windows 8.1 Start Screen vs. Windows 10 Start Menu

Where did you find that first one? The second one supports a "Start", not a substitute. The desktop could be a "Start" or "boot-up-to screen".

 

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Actually they are alphabetical in a way. The list the certain programs/apps alphabetical, then it is listed by group alphabetical and under each group the apps/programs are listed alphabetical. What Microsoft needs to do is included apps in list as well as the group. There should be a registry hack for that.

 

Change is also called progress. Imagine if Microsoft had never moved beyond Windows 1.0 because they were afraid of changing anything. Or moving beyond Windows 95. Imagine if they were afraid to go to 64 bit.

Change has to happen or products die.

 

So easy to do; just move shortcuts to the parent folder and hide the rest, takes 5 minutes.

 

Yeah right - alphabetical "in a way". But I think that is not good enough. It should be alphabetical all the way. Maybe Shawn can find a way to hack that. He is soooo good at that.

 

Edwin - how exactly did you do that ??

 

Show hidden folders, then,

Go to:
C:\Users\yourname\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

and:
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

makes copies of the shortcuts you want show and paste them outside of their folders, (in the parent/programs folder itself),
then select and hide the rest as per screenshot;
restart explorer and the hidden ones will no longer show on the Start Screen or Start Menu.





(I've pinned the two folders to Favorites just in case I need to get to them fast)

 

Thanks Edwin. I will play with it later.

 

I should mention:
If there are certain immersive 'Modern' Apps you want to hide, you'll need to create a folder for them and then hide the folder itself as the individual apps can't be hidden on their own. Take caution though as this method disables some of the apps abilities and you won't be able to invoke an instance of them while they reside in the hidden folder, unlike a native application shortcut which will run hidden or not.
DO NOT hide the 'Store', 'PC Settings', 'Search' and 'Desktop' shortcuts, it will mess some things up!

As for Store Apps, the ones you don't want you'll simply have to uninstall them.

 

Thanks for the additional info. I don't use these store apps anyhow. So they can go.

 

One thing I DO appreciate about the Start Screen over the Start Menu is the ability to Ctrl/Select numerous items to uninstall at once.
(but I prefer the Start Menu..., (I like both!!!)) *Wink

 

Where did you find that first one? The second one supports a "Start", not a substitute. The desktop could be a "Start" or "boot-up-to screen". Where is the Start menu? - Windows Help

But the argument goes on ad infinitum. It comes down, in the end, to a matter of choice. When I got my first glimpse of the Modern Apps screen, and saw the quoted comment, I immediately started to work with it on the basis it was the new start menu. Now, god bless, I find it far more useful than the text menu. I keep my (what I call) desktop totally empty for work in progress, my start menu remains available under one key. I have a large touch screen and several older laptops, but still prefer the mouse click method for speed.

 

Thanks, Dave. Yes, it is a matter of choice and hopefully in 10 both camps will have a choice. I'm glad to read you find the Start Screen more useful. *Thumbs

I stand corrected and should phrase reference to the Start screen vs Start menu differently. It should be that Apps view replaces the left side of the Start menu and the Start screen replaces the right side of the Start menu. This is true of the cascading of a menu examples people give and in line with the terminology MS uses. Thanks for sharing that. *Smile

 

You are quite right about that + "Recent" included in a big mess. I'm just waiting to see what else is going to be implemented til last version but have a hunch there's going to be a lot of work for me to get everything to look and work my way.

 

Count, “Recent”? Reinstalled (fresh) W10TP over the weekend due to bluescreening and using the Start menu. Recent for me isn’t that large yet. A couple of items. I’m taking it that it gets quite large?

We do or did spend some time setting our systems up the way we like them. Going from 8RP to 8, then on to 8.1 was a dream in that everything carried over because of account backup. Same on my Lumia with 8 to 8.1. Very little fiddling around. Most things as were. Some may like to fiddle around with systems, but I have not the desire nor a lot of time to do so. I’m more like the “commoner” or the non-techie, but consider myself more of a power user than just using for consumption. I do use it for business, but not nearly as much as in the past. I also enjoy “peeking in” on the “next” OS.

MS must consider various types of users. Most do not know systems like members here. Most want ease of use. Plop some icons on the Taskbar and/or desktop or on the Start screen and they’re happier than pigs in a pile. Show them they can carry the same configuration over to the next OS or device via an account and I’d think they’d be happier yet. Too many people focus too much on what we want here and forget about the rest of the world. The “we” includes me at times.

With that > I have a house to remodel > I gotta go. *Smile