Windows 10: Windows Sort sequence irritant -- wrong sequence

Hi there

when browsing through tagged music files Windows seems to come up with the WRONG sort sequence

For example if I'm browsing Mozart

Mozart symphonies /CD 1
Mozart symphonies /CD 10
------- /CD 14
Mozart symphonies /CD 2
Mozart symphonies /CD 3


What I want is for the list to be displayed as /CD 1
/CD 2 ....../.CD 10 etc.

Excel also hoses it up too

any ideas on how to fix this without a whole slew of file / track re-tagging / re-numbering.

Seems bonkers to have 10-19, 20-29 etc displayed before 2, 3 etc. I don't want to renumber a whole slew of stuff to for example /CD 01 etc to force sequence correction. I've about 1.7 TB worth of tagged music files !!!.

Cheers
jimbo

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Sorting contacts on 6600 Slide after firmware update

Oh dear! (or is it just me!)



I spent some time working with PC Suite and THOUGHT I'd got everything working right (connection to PC via CABLE).



So I backed up the phone to the PC and ran the phone firmware update. Everything seemed to go OK and when the phone restarted everything (inc Contacts) was left empty.



Then I reloaded the phone from the backup and that seemed to go OK too.



Then I received a few calls and messages and used the Contacts function to check details of a caller. Whoops apocalypse: contact entry seemed to have disappeared ALTHOUGH the right name came up on the call log! Then I scrolled further down the list and
found that the Contact list on the phone was scrambled into the wrong sequence.



So I connected the phone back on to PC Suite and opened up the Contacts list on the PC. Yup - all there but the sorting sequence is all over the place. Sort on the PC display and everything is all right again. BUT how do I get the re-sorted list back onto
the phone???



Another side-effect of the backup -update - reload process is that now scrolling down the Contacts list (still in the wrong sequence) is MUCH slower than it was before.



I've searched the messages here for clues but nothing relevant came up using keywords like 'contact' and 'sequence'.



Before I mess things up further, can someone offer advice on the best way out of this. Specifically, how to (safely) re-sort the Contacts on the phone OR how to upload to the PC, sort and then download the new sequence back to the hone?

 

People App Sorting Anomaly

I have found a strange anomaly in the way the People App sorts titles. If I put a Dr. title in front of the first name of a doctor, sometimes it is sorted into the D's and sometime it is sorted into first or last name sequence. I would actually like to
be able to reproduce the sequence where it is sorted by Ds so that all doctors are put into the same area. Anyone have any ideas or thoughts?

 

It has always been this way - it is called lexicographical sorting ie text is sorted from left to right. No easy way round it without 3rd party apps.

Basically, sub ten numbers have to be numbered xxxx01, xxxx02 etc ie with a leading zero (or two zeros for sub one hundred if more than one hundred,three if more than 1000 and so on).

 

This worked in Windows 7, may still be valid in Windows 10:
Microsoft Windows 7 Explorer Numerical Sort Order

 

Hi there

@cereberus

On my NAS server there's no problem - It's just Windows / File explorer hoses it up.

Also if a Directory / Folder / file / track name etc is longer than around 200 chars then File explorer can't handle it at all !!!!!

Here's what I believe something like it Should look like. (From my NAS server)






These files > 200 chars can't be handled by File explorer -- Why should I rename them - the tracks etc are descriptive of the content.





Cheers
jimbo

 

@Ztruker- the GP still exists in '10 so should work- and does. Thanks.

Presumably path length restriction. If they are as long as that, wouldn't you have other problems with them?

Good musical taste.. hope you've got some good speakers.

 

Sure - Different software using different basis.

Windows has always used lexicographical sorting since day 1. All computer systems in old days used that basis (dates back to mainframe days)

Just for clarity, lexicographical sorting does not consider numeric numbers. Numbers are just treated as letters - sorting is in effect on the ascii value of characters from left to right (but clever enough to handle A and a as the same letter). As numbers have ascii numbers lower than letters, this means file names starting with numbers will be before file names starting with a (A).

In essence, it is an overstatement to say Windows hoses it - it just works on a different basis. In the end, I doubt Windows will ever change.

If the regedit proposed works, fine.

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Re. length - long filenames are supposed to be in W10 now but .....

You can fudge long file name by mapping a root drive to be a long path.

Z:\ = C:\dir1\dir2\dir3\......dir n\

A bit of a hassle but it works.

 

Doesn't look like long file names are supported- I just tried creating a couple of 262 characters.

If your file name + folder path < 255, then adding characters to the file name stops at the path limit.

Couldn't rename one that exceeded the limit- and I had file explorer crash trying to do so.

 

Hi there

@cereberus and @dalchina

Thanks for replies - but :

BTW the regedit doesn't fix the problem of File explorer not showing long names.

Long file names will fail on any software relying on Windows / File explorer -- so for example browsing a directory to play a file with say VLC will fail -- or at the best it will truncate the file to something unrecognizeable but sill actually play.

For example







Will need some way without renaming stuff to be able to serve this music up to Windows clients though without a mega rename operation !!!.

My smart TV handles the files OK but I suppose that's because it's an Android based type system with no historical limit on files (based on the old DOS 8.3 format) which Windows still uses - even though we are well into C21 now !!!.

Cheers
jimbo

 

Hi, it's not specified or expected to do so- merely change the sort order rule.