Windows 10: would my windows stay activated in this setup or do i need to buy new?

Discus and support would my windows stay activated in this setup or do i need to buy new? in Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade to solve the problem; Hey all. My rig came with windows 7 installed, with media and driver disks. Then i upgraded to windows 10, then clean installed windows over the... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade' started by kofman13, Jul 1, 2017.

  1. kofman13 Win User

    would my windows stay activated in this setup or do i need to buy new?


    Hey all. My rig came with windows 7 installed, with media and driver disks. Then i upgraded to windows 10, then clean installed windows over the upgrade for a fresh start, obviously my copy activated again because its the same computer and components.I want to use the windows 7 media that came with my computer to install windows 7 on a second SSD solely for my audio production work because everything works better in windows 7 for those specific tasks.My question is, would windows 7 get activated fine on this new second SSD when booting into it since all the computer components are the same obviously?would my windows 10 installation on the first drive get un-activated after booting into windows 7 on the second drive? I know technically windows can only be installed on one computer but technically it is still one computer just on a different hard drive within the same computer.TL/DR: my end goal is to have windows 10 on one SSD for gaming/video editing/everyday stuff and then Windows 7 for audio engineering work on the second SSD.

    :)
     
    kofman13, Jul 1, 2017
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  2. neilpzz Win User

    Is my Windows 10 fully activated or do I need to worry about something ?

    Your device is fully activated, the type of licence you have is a digital licence.

    The note about upgrade is for those that want another version, to go from Home to Pro for instance.

    No need to worry.
     
    neilpzz, Jul 1, 2017
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  3. Is my Windows 10 fully activated or do I need to worry about something ?

    Hello Sir / Ma'am,

    My activation status in the update and security settings shows as "windows is activated with a digital license linked to your Microsoft account" with a notification of upgrade your edition of windows. Is my windows fully activated or it needs to activated?

    Regards
     
    AtulRishav, Jul 1, 2017
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  4. SoFine409 Win User

    would my windows stay activated in this setup or do i need to buy new?

    Hi kofman13 and welcome to the forum. I believe that what you propose to do is a violation of your user agreement. By installing Win10 you gave up your Win7 license. I doubt that Win7 would activate. You could buy a Win7 license and activate it with that. That is what I did.
     
    SoFine409, Jul 1, 2017
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  5. kofman13 Win User
    thanks for the clarification. i started looking into buying windows 7, only to find some on eBay. this seems like a super popular listing Microsoft Windows 7 Professional - 64 or 32 Bit Full Version Upgrade SP1 Pro
    But its a bit confusing when you go to full product description it says something about how they have to ship it with the hard drive that it was installed on originally,
    "To be in accordance with Microsoft licensing for OEM or Reinstall Software - OEM, bundled, or recovery software may be listed only if it is included along with the original hardware, such as the motherboard, hard drive, or computer sold with the OEM software. You are purchasing this software which is bundled with an untested original hard drive. We do not warranty untested hardware. "
    like they are going to send a dvd with a product key with an old hard drive as well? and then they talk about some :
    "Automated Phone Activation May Be Required for OEM Software Instructions Follow:"
     
    kofman13, Jul 1, 2017
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  6. cereberus Win User
    I am afraid Sofine409 is completely wrong. Your windows 7 licence always remain valid. You have the right to use Windows 10 OR Windows 7 at the same time, but not both at same time (eg installing windows 7 in a vm with 10 on host upgraded from same 7 licence is not permitted).

    You can reinstall windows 7 on same pc at any time on any drive and it will activate. It is strictly violating the EULA having Windows 7 and Windows 10 upgraded from same licence on same pc, but in reality it works and you can only use one of them at any one.

    What is clearly illegal is to upgrade to 10 on one pc and install 7 on a second pc and you could then use two installs at the same time but with only one valid licence.
     
    cereberus, Jul 1, 2017
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  7. kofman13 Win User
    i see... well in case i want to play it safe ( i cant risk my windows 10 install boot drive to get deactivated in case windows detects im going back and forth between drives/versions every other day), and i did want to buy windows 7, could you comment on that part about that ebay listing i mentioned in the post you quoted? appreciate it!
     
    kofman13, Jul 1, 2017
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  8. NavyLCDR New Member

    would my windows stay activated in this setup or do i need to buy new?

    That ebay listing is a previously used OEM version of Windows 7. Someone else has already activated it before.
     
    NavyLCDR, Jul 1, 2017
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  9. kofman13 Win User
    so its a scam? or thats why the listing says you have to call and re activate or something?

    is there any place to buy a legit brand new product key for 7?
     
    kofman13, Jul 1, 2017
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  10. NavyLCDR New Member
    I find it interesting that you asked the question, @cereberus gave you the correct answer. If you weren't going to accept that answer, then why not just ask the question, "Where can I purchase a legitimate Windows 7?"

    And if you really want to get right down to it - it violates the EULA (End Users License Agreement) to use a System Builder's (OEM) edition of Windows 10 or Windows 7 that you purchase separately for your own home use. The EULA only allows you to pre-install it on a computer that you are going to deliver to the end user. So if you aren't going to follow @cereberus' post, and you want to be absolutely 100% legal and in compliance with all Microsoft EULA's then you need to purchase a full retail verson of Windows and to do that you are looking at purchasing Windows 10, not Windows 7. Then you would be running Windows 10 under the purchased license, and running Windows 7 under your existing license.

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    NavyLCDR, Jul 1, 2017
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  11. kofman13 Win User
    gotcha, so if i buy a non OEM windows 10 version, i can install 10 on one drive and 7 on the other like i wanted in OP and it would be fine?
     
    kofman13, Jul 1, 2017
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  12. NavyLCDR New Member
    Yes.

    But as @cereberus posted, nothing happens to the Windows 7 license (product key) when it is upgraded to Windows 10. And the Windows 10 upgrade from a Windows 7 is no longer tied to the Windows 7 license (product key). After an upgrade the Windows 7 product key is stored in the registry, but it isn't used for validating Windows 10 activation. If you clean install Windows 10 on that same computer, there is no longer any trace of the Windows 7 product key.

    As @cereberus posted, you can switch between Windows 7 and Windows 10 on the same computer as much as you want to and the activation of one does not affect the activation of the other. However, you only have 1 license for Windows and the EULA only allows for one instance of the software to be installed and activated at a time on the computer.

    An example of "dual booting" OEM Windows that 100% complies with the EULA:
    1. SSD #1 has the original install of Windows 7 on it. Upgrade that to Windows 10.

    2. Remove SSD #1 from the computer. Install SSD #2. Reinstall the original Windows 7 onto it.

    3. You can now physically connect either SSD #1 and run Windows 10 or physically connect SSD #2 and run Windows 7. They both will stay activated and won't interfere with other. It would just violate the EULA to have them both connected (installed) at the same time and dual booting. Although if they were connected at the same time and dual booting, Microsoft cannot detect the difference in doing that and just connecting one SSD at a time.

    4. Several members of this forum will argue that having them both connected at the same time does not violate the EULA because you are actually "using" only 1 OS at a time on the same computer - but the EULA uses the word "install", not use. There are members here who have dual booted the original Windows 7 and the Windows 10 resulting in an upgrade from the same Windows 7 ever since Windows 10 was first released. Then add dual or triple booting an insider's build of Windows 10 based on the same single license from the original Windows 7, which members here have also done for years.
     
    NavyLCDR, Jul 1, 2017
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  13. kofman13 Win User

    would my windows stay activated in this setup or do i need to buy new?

    thank you so much that clears the whole thing up. so basically it seems that what i want to do is is technically agains the EULA, but theres no way for them to detect/know the difference when i am going back and forth between the two SSDs on the same computer
     
    kofman13, Jul 1, 2017
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  14. Superfly Win User
    I think by "install" the EULA is referring to a running version of Windows...

    They surely cannot expect one to install and uninstall each version each time it's required.

    In a dual boot environment, where only one version can be run at a time - it's not technically an infringement, doing it in a VM, however, will be.
     
    Superfly, Jul 1, 2017
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  15. kofman13 Win User
    makes sense! thank you!
     
    kofman13, Jul 1, 2017
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