Would this be a Windows 9 Killer

Hi there.

Most people using Linux primarily wish for ONE WINDOWS application that could run on it -- Ms OFFICE.

Photoshop is another but there are some alternatives to that one - but Ms OFFICE is THE app above all the others that people want.

Getting Office 2010 to work on Wine / PlayonLinux is a really daunting process and it usually doesn't work very successfully. So far there aren't any real;y good Clones on Linux either - WPS (aka Kingsoft) Office is a start but it only has EXCEL / POWERPOINT and WORD - no email client or database application.

If someone either could make Office run perfectly on Linux or create a clone with all the VB code working too (macros etc) then I'm sure the future for Windows itself might be very different --especially as Ms seem to be going more and more "Cloud orientated").

Interesting to see what does come up -- if anybody has got OFFICE 2010 to work properly on Linux I'd be interested to see how they did it. It could be the 32 bit version of office -- so long as it works 100% WITH OUTLOOK as well.

I'm sure if it weren't for Ms Office Windows would be facing some serious defections by now. !!

Cheers
jimbo

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New Opera browser

Judging by Opera Mini 4 Beta - and the prospect of Opera Mobile 9, Nokia's native web browser (Safari) has a LOT to worry about.

Opera M4B is a delight to use - and with the added OpMo 9 functionality, will be a KILLER app.

Can't wait.

Bring it on Opera !

 

No internet (Killer E2200) after update Windows 10

Already tried that while following the Killer Networking guide I mentioned in my original post. But figured I would try so again, using the Driver Only this time.

First of all, this Killer stuff is hard to get rid off. Following the guides of Killer Networking themselves, I closed all Killer related processesses and services in the Task manager and removed all killer related apps in the Apps and Features (Killer Drivers
/ Killer Performance Driver Suite / The Killer Performance Suite removed).

Because one of the apps was giving trouble uninstalling, following another Killer Networking guide, I removed everything with the Killer Removal Tool. This did not help. Then used the Windows tool to remove blocking apps to remove everything Killer related
(including Killer Network Manager). After that there were no more Killer apps in the Apps and Features, and the Windows tool did not list any more Killer processes. Somehow though, Killer Control Center survived this onslaught and is sitting there mockingly
on my desktop and starting automatically every time I restart. I cannot get it away.

Anyway, since the drivers were gone, I installed the driver only version, restarted the computer, but still can't access the network.

I am baffled by how much trouble this is causing, and also by how many guides Killer Networking has to deal or bypass with their products, and it still does not work.

 

I have very little experience with Linux. But, doesn't Open Office work pretty well? Not up to all of the functions of MS Office, but not far off for the more straightforward users.

 

No to the question. The amount of work along with the cost alone means there are no major corporations, or businesses that would even think of attempting such a move, and davehc there are no other office suites that can even come close to the abilities of MS Office. Open Office and Libra office can't even compete with MS Office 2003 little own the likes of MS Office 2010 or 2013.

 

I do not disagree. But, I also have a feeling that the average user, possibly as many as 80%, set up their original template, merely open Word, and type a letter without using any of the functions offered.
I admit, with humility, that whilst I have Word, I often find it easier and quicker to use Wordpad

 

I suspect that most users just accept the default template (and probably don't even know that you can change it) or the template their IT department has provided.

If I don't need formatting or I want to eliminate it, I use Notepad++.
If I need formatting or I want to transfer it, I use Word 2007.

 

I do not own Office 2010, but I have gotten Office 2007 to work quite nicely under Wine. It's even easier to install using Crossover. Yes, Outlook works perfectly, as do Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and OneNote, including macros. The only thing that doesn't seem to work is Access, but I don't ever use it so I haven't bothered pursuing it.

 

I second the Open Office. It's the closest you can get to MS Office.
As for email client, Linux's default is Thunderbird that you can also configure to work with MS.

 

No, it's not Office that is just what makes Windows Windows. It's the whole scope of features, benefits, and the other third party programs (PC gaming especially) that makes Windows the mainstay. Office is a pea in the three course meal.

 

I personally have a fair amount of experience with Linux but I am not even close to expert, I've just installed and used a good 30-40 including a bunch of different flavors. The reason I keep buying (err getting free licenses from via my college ) Windows is because I just like everything about it. I can find suitable programs for just about anything in Linux but Windows just does "it" for me. I think the whole package will keep the majority of Win users right here for a while.

 

MS Office is the one tool that business uses the most and it keeps them using Windows. And I think MS will do anything and everything that they have to do to keep it that way. I don't expect that it's every going to be easy to make MS Office run in Wine easily. MS will make sure that never happens.


Yes, there are great substitute for MS Office but most business will not drop MS Office, IMO and experience. I've used Kingston. Open Office and Libre Office. All are very good tools but business will not use them because they don't have all the features that MS Office has. Right now I'm using IBM Lotus Symphony and I love it but it's the 2009 version.



In the end.. Yes. I would love to see MS Office run in Wine but I don't see that happening with out a miracle happening

 

The commoners will ask > "Linux? Distro? What are those?!!"

How many businesses will consider switching to a Linux distro let alone a different Office suite due to costs of employee and IT training alone, especially in the present condition of economies?

Even if a few Linux distros catch on, will they be free forever? I doubt that. Nor these free Office suites. Not unless one sells hardware along with like Apple, advertising involved such as the likes of Google's Android, or diversity such as MS. Don't forget their stores and services. All three have them to some extent.

No, personally I don't see it happening any time soon.

And oh! Don't forget the situations like the Munich fiasco.

 

. . .at least in my lifetime (living on borrowed time as it is) major governments, corporations, hospitals, etc., are not going to make the switch to Linux. Hell Apple hasn't been able to get folks to make the switch and they have a very smooth system that can run just about anything that Windows can. . .

 

Those still running XP & Office 2003?

Like others, I suspect that it is just politics as usual.

If "side A" introduces something, "side B" opposes it and once they get into power, they destroy it even if doing so violates their supposed principles.

It's just like our new Government.
They believe in profit above all other factors, yet they are fighting "tooth and nail" to destroy a department that actually makes money and this is despite their claims that the Government has no money.