Windows 10: Can I reinstall windows without losing files if forgot admin password?

Discus and support Can I reinstall windows without losing files if forgot admin password? in User Accounts and Family Safety to solve the problem; Hi, I have W10 (originally W7). Bought this laptop new from DELL several years ago. Not under warranty now. Don't have a second computer. Tight... Discussion in 'User Accounts and Family Safety' started by Jacknboks, Feb 3, 2017.

  1. Jacknboks Win User

    Can I reinstall windows without losing files if forgot admin password?


    Hi, I have W10 (originally W7). Bought this laptop new from DELL several years ago. Not under warranty now. Don't have a second computer. Tight financially also. I have gone through a very stressful week after I accidentally signed up with a madeup email for microsoft to try out a feature of the computer, then I realized that email and password had now become my login info and obviously I don't know them. I've tried email recovery from LIVE but it won't allow me because I have very limited info (I never used the account, so I have no previous passwords to share, never filled out personal details etc). It's been awful, awful. My family pics, important files, music, videos, documents, everything is on there. I've tried some password recovery software too but no help.

    Now I don't remember exactly but I think once when I reinstalled windows, it actually asked me if I wanted to save my files and so I suddenly thought as a last resort, if I can just reinstall windows.

    Now I'm using a guest and so the question is, can I reinstall windows from this account? I have W7 reinstallation CD. And secondly, will it save my files?

    I really appreciate any help you can offer me.

    :)
     
    Jacknboks, Feb 3, 2017
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  2. WINDOWS 10 recovery

    i want u to give me a tool where i can reinstall my whole windows without being asked for admin password since i forgot my admin password!!!
     
    TeaMandusic, Feb 3, 2017
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  3. Andre Da Costa, Feb 3, 2017
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  4. Kari Win User

    Can I reinstall windows without losing files if forgot admin password?

    Using any other PC or other account on the PC in question, open a browser and go to Sign in to your Microsoft account, enter your email address and click Next. On next page select Forgotten my password:


    Can I reinstall windows without losing files if forgot admin password? [​IMG]

    Select I've forgotten my password and click Next:


    Can I reinstall windows without losing files if forgot admin password? [​IMG]

    Enter CAPTCHA code and click Next:


    Can I reinstall windows without losing files if forgot admin password? [​IMG]

    When you set up Microsoft account you were asked both a phone number and alternative email address. Select one of those:


    Can I reinstall windows without losing files if forgot admin password? [​IMG]

    For security reasons you need to enter the email address or last four digits of the phone number. Do it and click Send code:


    Can I reinstall windows without losing files if forgot admin password? [​IMG]

    Enter the code you received and click Next:


    Can I reinstall windows without losing files if forgot admin password? [​IMG]

    Repeat the security code procedure. If you selected code to be sent to email, you need to get it to phone, too, and vice versa. To protect you it is required to use two verification methods, in your case now use both the phone number and alternative email address you gave when creating Microsoft email account.

    Now you can set a new password:


    Can I reinstall windows without losing files if forgot admin password? [​IMG]

    When done you can sign in to Windows with new password and change your Windows user account back to a local account (tutorial).
     
    Kari, Feb 3, 2017
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  5. NavyLCDR New Member
    If @Kari's method of resetting the password does not work, @Jacknboks, you have several options. They all required that you have a Windows 10 USB flash drive or DVD that you can boot from, though, so you will have to find a way to make one or have someone make one for you. If you are going to use a USB flash drive, I recommend that you make a plain Windows 10 installation USB flash drive:

    USB Flash Drive - Create to Install Windows 10

    Then read my quote in the middle of the OP here and convert that flash drive to boot into Kyhi's recovery tools:
    Windows 10 Recovery Tools - Bootable Rescue Disk

    If you have to do DVD's, then I would suggest you make a DVD of each above, one standard Windows 10 and one of Kyhi's recovery tools. You will want to boot the computer from Kyhi's recovery tools.

    Once you get into Kyhi's recovery tools, there are a couple of options. I would start by recommending that you use file explorer to get into your useraccount under the Users folder and copy the files you need to a USB flash drive or USB external hard drive. That would be the absolute safest thing to do first.

    Another alternative would be to shrink the existing C: drive partition using AEOMI Partition Assistant, create a new partition at the end of the drive, and copy your files to the new partition.

    There is an NT password resetting program on Kyhi's recovery tools - you might be able to use that to get back into your computer.

    You can also use the last option here to enable the built-in administrator account on your computer:
    Administrator account - Enable or Disable in Windows 10

    Then you could log into the built in administrator account and use that to create a new local account for yourself. Make sure to change the local account type to administrator. Then copy your files from the old user account to the new one you make.

    You can even shrink the existing partition on the disc, make a new partition, install Windows 10 clean to the new partition and use that to get to your files on your old Windows 10.

    You do have a lot of options. Before people with less experience with computers and Windows 10 start messing with their user accounts, I always recommend that they create a second, local user account with a password that they absolutely will not forget, make that account an administrator and never touch it, except in such emergencies.
     
    NavyLCDR, Feb 3, 2017
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  6. DavidY Win User
    I believe that option only works if you can already login with an administrator-level login.

     
    DavidY, Feb 3, 2017
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  7. NavyLCDR New Member
    And when you do the first step of that procedure:
    Boot from your Windows 10 installation USB or recovery drive, and open a command prompt at boot (Shift+F10).

    you are logged in as administrator.
     
    NavyLCDR, Feb 3, 2017
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  8. DavidY Win User

    Can I reinstall windows without losing files if forgot admin password?

    Ah I see - although you aren't logging in to one of the admin-level accounts on the computer itself, it's enough access to get to the files which hold the registry and change them to enable access.

    I've learned something there. *Smile
     
    DavidY, Feb 3, 2017
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  9. Bree New Member
    Yes, if you boot from a recovery USB or install media you will be asked to choose one of the admin accounts on the computer and give its password. You are then running at the admin level. The Catch-22 with this is when you either don't know a password or if there is no admin account to use.

    Believe it or not, there is nothing to prevent a user changing their one and only admin account to a standard user. Sadly, some inexperienced users have done just this in the belief that it is safer to browse as a standard user. What they should have done of course is make a second account. With no admin account the UAC prevents you using the Media Creation Tool or making a Recovery Drive, the UAC prompt just has a 'No' option, there's no 'Yes' offered because there's no admin account to be found on the PC.

    Those who have realised their mistake and ended up here have been pointed to Option Four of Brink's Tutorial and in particular the tip in item 1.
    This take you to Option Six of...
    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...a.html#option6
    ...which explains how to force a PC into the recovery environment. From there you can get the admin command prompt without needing to provide an account or password.
     
    Bree, Feb 4, 2017
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  10. Jacknboks Win User
    Thanks for the replies. I'm going through them one by one and trying the suggestions.
    @Kari: Thank you but that method does not work. As I mentioned, I made up a random email but perhaps it's better if I use an example to clarify. The email looks similar to this: L: blahblah@adsfasdf.com. So it's not @live.com. When I go to live.com, the email mentioned is treated as my username. So I enter it and then asks for password. When I say I've forgotten it, it said it will send a confirmation code but then I say I don't have access to that email (which again, is just random one I named, but never created, I don't think the domain even exists). SO then it says it will send it to another email, I provide my gmail account, and receive the confirmation code. The real problem however is that in order to recover it, it asks me to provide more info about the random account and naturally I have none. So I get the "information you provided was not sufficient for us to validate your account ownership." That's why I was considering reinstalling, if I can find a way so my files won't be deleted, and also if there is a way I can reinstall from my guest account.
     
    Jacknboks, Feb 4, 2017
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  11. Jacknboks Win User
    @NavyLCDR, thank you for that detailed response. I probably have to use DVD-R because I do have flash drive but its size is one gig only.

    Anyhow, I'm looking at the second link, the bootable rescue disk. I'm new to all of this so I find that link quite overwhelming. There are like two dozen download links and I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do, download everything? I mean of the first few, probably I would get Win14393PESE_x64 ISO v170116 because I have 64bit and I won't download the old versions which follow the top two links. But then there is one for image health and like a dozen for utilities. I burn everything then to that second DVD?
     
    Jacknboks, Feb 4, 2017
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  12. NavyLCDR New Member
    You only need Win14393PESE_x64 ISO v170116
     
    NavyLCDR, Feb 4, 2017
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  13. Jacknboks Win User

    Can I reinstall windows without losing files if forgot admin password?

    Thanks NavyLCDR. I've downloaded the iso and will burn it later tonight. I'm just confused about your quote that you referred me to, quite a few things I don't understand there. Because as I mentioned, all I've done is get the iso so I don't know what Kyhi's recovery drive is or where the boot.wim file is and so on. I'm a PC newbie. *Smile
     
    Jacknboks, Feb 7, 2017
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  14. NavyLCDR New Member
    You also have a standard Windows 10 installation USB flash drive created? Mount Kyhi's Recovery Tools ISO file. It will open in a new virtual DVD drive letter. Take the boot.wim file from the \Sources folder of the drive letter that opens and copy it to the \Sources folder on the standard Windows 10 installation USB flash drive. You can either rename the boot.wim file that is already there before you copy Kyhi's boot.wim file to it or just overwrite it without renaming it.
     
    NavyLCDR, Feb 7, 2017
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  15. Jacknboks Win User
    No, no USB flash drive, just the dvd created. I don't have a flash drive or rather not big enough, it's one gig
     
    Jacknboks, Feb 7, 2017
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