Windows 10: Creators Update destroyed Network Discovery on wired LAN

Discus and support Creators Update destroyed Network Discovery on wired LAN in Windows 10 Network and Sharing to solve the problem; Follow up: I read the posts on ditching the Realtek (or other brand) NICs and purchased two Intel NICs (matching pair for my two boxes! See below for... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Network and Sharing' started by jetgraphics, Jun 23, 2017.

  1. LLin La Win User

    Creators Update destroyed Network Discovery on wired LAN


    Follow up: I read the posts on ditching the Realtek (or other brand) NICs and purchased two Intel NICs (matching pair for my two boxes! See below for results) As I reported, the fix linked above worked. I did everything I knew how to block Windows Update from giving me the Creator's Edition again. Sadly, I got a notice yesterday that "an update had been installed!" Yep, they snuck 1703 back on me and I'm back where I started. I am showing the Freenas (and other workstations) in the Network but all the folders are empty. But I can ping, IP Scanner see the IP, router sees it . . . everything but Windows!!! For those interested in alternate network connection substitute, I did try something else. I enabled FTP on the server and then installed Filezilla on my Win10 box. Last night I successfully transferred 26GB of data from Freenas back to my Windows machine without a hitch. I was averaging 20MB/s with 5 simultaneous connections with my new Intel NICs. In the greater world, I don't know if that's good or bad but I was only getting KB/s with my replaced cards with 2 simultaneous connections, would show a few errors mainly because of watchdog errors which meant reboots. As I said, the Intel cards were much faster, not one error(!) and I'm pleased with everyone but Microsoft! My experience with Win10Pro has been good up until the Creator's Update. Don't want to step back to 7. And I know it is inconvenient to not be able to drag and drop with a Samba connection but at least I can operate until Microsoft gets their act together*Roflmao2. (Like that's ever going to happen!)
     
    LLin La, Aug 30, 2017
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  2. Stigg Win User

    I thought I would re-visit this thread to see if there has been a fix found yet.
    So, is disabling the Master Browser the only solution? *Banghead
     
    Stigg, Sep 2, 2017
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  3. LLin La Win User
    Well, MB disable was working with the edit. Now, back to same old . . . should've disabled Update!
     
    LLin La, Sep 2, 2017
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  4. Stigg Win User

    Creators Update destroyed Network Discovery on wired LAN

    Hmm! So, it only fixed it temporarily. That's strange.
     
    Stigg, Sep 7, 2017
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  5. JCHolcomb Win User
    Strangely, this problem didn't seem to affect me after the Creators' Update was first installed (Win 10 Pro). However, yesterday, the "2017-09 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems (KB4038788)" was installed, and then I could only see one computer on the network from my desktop computer. I couldn't even see the desktop computer I was trying to view the network on, even though it is a wired connection to the router. I could only see my Surface 3 tablet over WiFi. Even that disappeared after I finished updating the Surface. Using the workaround of making the router the Master Browser did the trick, for now. I can see everything I should see from both computers now, but who knows how long that will last.

    Incidentally, I know an IT guy at the local public library, who says they have stuck with Windows 7, rather than upgrading to 10, precisely because he considers Windows 10 networking to be terrible. With what I've had to put up with on just my little home network, I'd have to agree, and I've worked with computers for 50 years, 40 of them as part of my job before I retired.
     
    JCHolcomb, Sep 13, 2017
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  6. LLin La Win User
    I've had the opposite effect with Windows 10 from its inception. I've been 100% pleased with it (except for the Metro Desktop!). I reverted back to the familiar Win 7 with Classic Shell. But whether it was officially Creators Update or the update you mentioned, it's been annoying (but surmountable) to this point. For convenience's sake, I just wish it had remained (networking) as it was.
     
    LLin La, Sep 14, 2017
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  7. ozstar Win User
    Hi,


    This morning Sept 15 after the update to Win 10 1703 x64, 2 computers had a black screen when starting.


    Came to the blue Windows Logo then went black but with a moveable cursor.

    I closed them down and restarted them. One has come up okay whilst the other is still the same.

    This one is a Dell T7500 Precision Desktop.

    I have unattached all USB boxes to it, but still no go.

    Where do I go from here?

    EDIT: Just rebooted and tried to get into safe mode with F8 but still went to black with cursor although this time heard the opening music.
     
    ozstar, Sep 14, 2017
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  8. JCHolcomb Win User

    Creators Update destroyed Network Discovery on wired LAN

    Update from my post of 7 hours ago, I can't say for sure they weren't missing after I forced my router to be the Master Browser, but now my network printer is missing. This is a shared printer that was always available before this trouble began. I don't use the printer over the network very often, but it is essential for my daughter, who is in college, to be able to access it. I hope it will remain available to her from the programs she prints with. I may have to try disabling the Master Browser to see if that will bring the printer back, or at least revert to letting my computer be the Master Browser.
     
    JCHolcomb, Sep 14, 2017
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  9. busaboyz Win User
    Stuck old USB memory stick in my wireless router and network discovery started working on multiple PCs.
     
    busaboyz, Sep 14, 2017
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  10. ozstar Win User
    Sounds weird. Was this USB empty?
     
    ozstar, Sep 15, 2017
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  11. LLin La Win User
    Sounds more like a monitor or video card thing. Perhaps your Windows or video card config switched to single monitor mode and you might need to activate the second monitor again. From the desktop, right click in an empty space and choose "Display Settings." That'll bring up the display dialog. Or you might need to go to your video card software. If it only shows one monitor, one is unplugged or completely dead. (Happened to me once!) If it does show "Monitor1 and Monitor2," make sure both are activated. If this doesn't help, call back.
     
    LLin La, Sep 15, 2017
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  12. busaboyz Win User
    Umm others in this same post stated the same thing. I just followed their recommendation and it worked for me.

    USB drive was not empty. Had a few files.
     
    busaboyz, Sep 15, 2017
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  13. busaboyz Win User

    Creators Update destroyed Network Discovery on wired LAN

    Doubt it. I have a number of high end Dell and HP office PCs with Windows 10 in a simple network at my house. No server involved. Been using them for a long time. Never had a network issue until the latest round of updates.
     
    busaboyz, Sep 15, 2017
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  14. I know this is an old thread, but I am still having this issue. I'm on 1709 build now, Homegroup works fine, can see all computers, but I can't see them on the network again. I can access them in the address bar by typing the computer name. I tried stopping and stopping the Service that was mentioned, but that did nothing. Any resolution to this (And its the Hardwired computer that is giving the issues, it doesn't even see itself on the network)
     
    sparky1996, Jan 2, 2018
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  15. Eagle51 Win User
    Hey sparky1996,
    I didn't read back to see what service you're referring to, but try starting these two .... Function Discovery Provider Host and Function Discovery Resource Publication. If starting them gets then PCs to show up in File Explorer > Network, then you might want to change their startup type to automatic.

    Note: Since you can access them by \\COMPUTER_NAME ... you could just map network drive - Map Network Drive in Windows 10 Network Sharing Tutorials
     
    Eagle51, Jan 2, 2018
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