Windows 10: Defragmentation of SSD's

Discus and support Defragmentation of SSD's in Windows 10 Drivers and Hardware to solve the problem; hey guys, since Build 14295 my SSD's defrag starts automatically . The new Build , right now 14328 changes the settings and i have to reset this... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Drivers and Hardware' started by jeffrys, Apr 24, 2016.

  1. jeffrys Win User

    Defragmentation of SSD's


    hey guys,

    since Build 14295 my SSD's defrag starts automatically .

    The new Build , right now 14328 changes the settings and i have to reset this manually, to prevent this to happen.

    Am I the only one here?

    Jut to let you know


    Jeff

    :)
     
    jeffrys, Apr 24, 2016
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  2. HairyFool Win User

    Does Windows 10 automatically recognise that a SSD has replaced a HDD?

    If the result of the command:

    fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify

    =0 it indicates that Trim is enabled therefore the O/S has recognised the disk type as SSD.

    Although generally accepted that SSD do not require Defragmentation there are housekeeping tasks to be performed. If you follow the old route to defragmenter the dialogue opened now is described as Optimiser. This new version handles SSD correctly and should
    be on. The renamed Defragmentation dialogue box shows Solid State Disk in the second column

    SSD rarely come with toolbox software but can normally be downloaded from the Manufacturer site.
     
    HairyFool, Apr 24, 2016
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  3. Does Windows 10 automatically recognise that a SSD has replaced a HDD?

    Thank you, HairyFool.

    I have run the command, and it came back with the result of 0. I had not heard of Trim before, but I have since read up about it, and it all makes sense.

    Thanks for your help.
     
    Grangeland, Apr 24, 2016
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  4. Brink
    Brink New Member

    Defragmentation of SSD's

    Brink, Apr 24, 2016
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  5. jeffrys Win User
    thanks Shawn,

    But my pc says otherwise. After each Build every drive is set to be defragged...

    I will with the next Build take a prtscrn to show.

    So it is not totally clear for me.

    But thanks, appreciate you knowledge here on the board ALWAYS.

    F
     
    jeffrys, Apr 25, 2016
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  6. Brink
    Brink New Member
    Brink, Apr 25, 2016
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  7. CountMike New Member
    Insiders builds always resets some options like that so you have to set them up as you want every time.
    Are you sure it's defragmenting or it says "Optimizing" ? Is SATA port set to AHCI mode. Trim usually doesn't work in IDE (Legacy) mode.
     
    CountMike, Apr 26, 2016
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  8. jimbo45 Win User

    Defragmentation of SSD's

    Hi there.

    Whatever the PC says - defrag is impossible on an SSD -- the physics are different. If you have any settings anywhere to allow defrag just switch them off.

    On an HDD you get problems because of physical arm movement to retrieve bits of the file and that can cause extra reads which take longer because it takes a finite time to for the heads to come under the reading movement of the HDD (physical rotation).

    An SSD has no moving parts and effectively it's one gigantic storage array so reading different "areas" of the SSD makes no difference. Like on a chess board it makes no difference if the SSD reads a1 or g7. Same time.

    I doubt if on the latest SSD's it's even worth worrying about TRIM either. SSD's are so much faster than HDD's I really wouldn't bother.

    IMO the best way to reset an SSD (if you really have to) is to back it up via an imaging program, re-format and then restore. This should re-order all the long file chains (if any) but IMO you wouldn't notice the difference anyway.

    Cheers
    jimbo
     
    jimbo45, Apr 26, 2016
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  9. prikker Win User
    It only optimizes the SSD, whatever that means. I set it to once a month.
     
    prikker, Apr 26, 2016
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  10. I'm with Jimbo on this one. Attempting to defrag an SSD actually harms it. Some software in a Windows OS permits it, but you still shouldn't do it.
     
    Vince Massi, Apr 26, 2016
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  11. jeffrys Win User
    jeffrys, Apr 27, 2016
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  12. Brink
    Brink New Member
    Brink, Apr 27, 2016
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  13. kebero Win User

    Defragmentation of SSD's

    Optimizing is fine. I let Windows run it weekly.
     
    kebero, May 1, 2016
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  14. cereberus Win User
    cereberus, Apr 5, 2018
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