Windows 10: How to do a clean install with a USB-stick booter

Discus and support How to do a clean install with a USB-stick booter in Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade to solve the problem; Hi. When I had to do a clean install of my Win7, I did it by going into the BIOS during POST and changing the boot order to 'DVD drive' (as I did when... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade' started by dortmunder, Apr 8, 2017.

  1. How to do a clean install with a USB-stick booter


    Hi. When I had to do a clean install of my Win7, I did it by going into the BIOS during POST and changing the boot order to 'DVD drive' (as I did when I built the PC). For both the first install and the reinstall, I tried to do it as UEFI but failed. However, it now turns out that I might have been closer to success than I knew:
    “If you receive a "Windows can't be installed on drive 0" warning, you will still be able to as long as you can click/tap on the Next button.”
    That quote comes from the 'If installing Windows 10 with UEFI' section of this thread:
    Clean Install Windows 10

    I've now upgraded to Win 10 and have made a USB booter using the Media Creation Tool in case I ever do a clean install. But there's something I'm unclear about: would I do it as before (access BIOS and change boot order to 'USB drive') or does Win10 offer a new way of doing it?

    I ask because I've been reading this thread:
    Boot to UEFI Firmware Settings from inside Windows 10
    but I think it's only for those wishing to change some UEFI settings on an existing UEFI setup.

    Thank you

    :)
     
    dortmunder, Apr 8, 2017
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  2. Bobwicker Win User

    how to do a clean install with windows 10

    I would like to know how to do a clean install on windows...Thank you
     
    Bobwicker, Apr 8, 2017
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  3. SujataMoktan, Apr 8, 2017
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  4. Plankton Win User

    How to do a clean install with a USB-stick booter

    Since yours is an upgrade.....if you wish to do a clean install....the procedure is the same except for inputting your PK (product key), leave that blank and your copy will automatically be activated.

    To bypass changing your boot order in the BIOS....all you have to do is reboot and at post beep start tapping the F12 key. This will bring up the boot order menu with out having to go into the BIOS. From that screen, just select your boot device and in your case your USB drive and proceed with the clean install.
     
    Plankton, Apr 8, 2017
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  5. Hi Plankton. Can I just be clear: 'the procedure is the same' – as what? Upgrading or installing from scratch?
    Any future clean install I do would be as UEFI (never had it, want to try it) so I'm thinking I'm going to have no option other than to visit BIOS...
     
    dortmunder, Apr 8, 2017
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  6. Plankton Win User
    The procedure: A clean install....is the same.

    UEFI is the "NEW" BIOS.....it's replacing the old BIOS. Here's a link on the difference.......but basically it's a BIOS that's locked down for more security. But it can be turned off.

    As I stated before....to change the boot order, you "do not" have to enter the BIOS. Just use the F12 method as outlined.

    Note: by default Windows 10 use GPT (HDD setting) and UEFI on a clean install.
    Whats the Difference Between GPT and MBR When Partitioning a Drive?
     
    Plankton, Apr 8, 2017
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  7. cereberus Win User
    This is not true. The decision to do a UEFI or legacy BIOS install depends on

    1) if pc only has legacy bios, it will install legacy bios

    2) if pc only has uefi, it will install uefi

    3) if pc has csm legacy bios support ie can do either, it will install acording to whether pc is set to legacy bios or uefi mode.
     
    cereberus, Apr 8, 2017
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  8. How to do a clean install with a USB-stick booter

    My mobo has the option of UEFI or BIOS. My system is currently BIOS. If I clean install and want to have UEFI then am I right in saying that I need to enter the BIOS, change boot order to 'USB' and set it to UEFI?
     
    dortmunder, Apr 8, 2017
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  9. anonjwm Win User
    You will need to set your motherboard to UEFI and also make the disc/usb bootable to UEFI (GPT) when you make the bootable disc/usb.
     
    anonjwm, Apr 8, 2017
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  10. "...and also make the usb bootable to UEFI (GPT) when you make the bootable usb." The Media Creation Tool makes no mention of this, it's just a case of choosing USB or disc and then the Tool goes ahead and does it. Does the Tool automatically give you a UEFI compatible USB/disc does anyone know?
     
    dortmunder, Apr 8, 2017
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  11. NavyLCDR New Member
    Yes, the MCT will create a USB flash drive that will work in both UEFI and legacy BIOS computers.
     
    NavyLCDR, Apr 8, 2017
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  12. This afternoon I used a USB drive to clean installed 1703 in UEFI mode (for the first time), and I had to set 'Windows Boot Manager' as the first boot device after the installation. Luckily, all files in drive D: remained there after I converted MBR to GPT.

    I created a bootable USB drive without using MCT according to
    How to make active@boot disk bootable on uefi/gpt? - Solved - Windows 10 Forums
    You were one of those who answered my questions there. Thanks a lot!
     
    Matthew Wai, Apr 8, 2017
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  13. NavyLCDR New Member

    How to do a clean install with a USB-stick booter

    You have to be careful how you convert a drive containing a data partition from MBR to GPT and to keep your data a third party program like MiniTool Partition Wizard must be used. If you use the Windows standard diskpart commands, the physical drive must be erased entirely and the normal sequence of commands is "clean" followed by "convert gpt". The clean command wipes all the partitions off the drive.
     
    NavyLCDR, Apr 8, 2017
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  14. anonjwm Win User
    That's if you use Rufus, did not see you we're using the MS tool.
     
    anonjwm, Apr 8, 2017
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  15. I used neither MiniTool Partition Wizard nor Diskpart to convert my HDD from MBR to GPT.
    I used Gdisk on a Linux Live DVD instead, as I had already mentioned in this post last month.
    My data partition remains safe and sound.

    I don't have to be careful because I already did it successfully.

    I used neither to create my bootable USB drive.
     
    Matthew Wai, Apr 8, 2017
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