Windows 10: My admin account switched to a user account!

Discus and support My admin account switched to a user account! in User Accounts and Family Safety to solve the problem; My account may have gotten corrupt in the update, Don't know for sure. I do know this, This mess is way above my paygrade...LOL... I really need some... Discussion in 'User Accounts and Family Safety' started by Raner, Jul 4, 2017.

  1. Raner Win User

    My admin account switched to a user account!


    My account may have gotten corrupt in the update, Don't know for sure.
    I do know this, This mess is way above my paygrade...LOL...
    I really need some help to try to fix this issue.
    The attachments can explain far better than me trying type what exactly is going on.
    All I can say it's looks pretty darn complicated to me.
    I hoping it looks worse than it is.



    My admin account switched to a user account! [​IMG]




    My admin account switched to a user account! [​IMG]




    My admin account switched to a user account! [​IMG]



    My admin account switched to a user account! [​IMG]


    I think the simplest way to address this is to make my account an administrator again.
    If it can be done, I'm going to need a step by step on how to do it.
    Let me know what you all think...Thanks...

    :)
     
    Raner, Jul 4, 2017
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    me how can do this on user account.
     
    ashish_frogalic, Jul 4, 2017
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    I created a standard user account to use on windows 10 besides my admin account. what is the easiest and fastest way to switch between the accounts?
     
    richardwaltonTA, Jul 4, 2017
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  4. Eagle51 Win User

    My admin account switched to a user account!

    There's nothing wrong with having two User Accounts (Admin & NON Admin). I'm guessing the rub comes when initially Signing In, Switching Accounts and Permissions, it makes things a bit more difficult. if you happen to Sign In with the NON Admin one, you get that permission popup.

    As long as your signed in with Admin one, you should be able to remove the NON Admin one, but don't quote me on that. Hopefully someone with more knowledge will comment on this !

    Update: More Info about the different account types ...
    Change Account Type in Windows 10 Windows 10 User Accounts Tutorials

    FYI ....
    Rene Garcia(myemail@somehost.com) - Microsoft User Account
    Garcia-1(RRG-PC-1\Garcia-1) - Local User Account
    Administrators(RRG-PC-1)\Administrators - This is the Administrators Group that you are a part of since you setup your account to be an Administrator.

    If you want to switch to a Local Account ...
    Switch to Local Account in Windows 10 Windows 10 User Accounts Tutorials
     
    Eagle51, Jul 4, 2017
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  5. Raner Win User
    Hey, Eagle... I got a mess don't I...*chuckle
    Thanks for the reply, I just made a local account.
    I'm in it now. I'll keep an eye on the download shortcuts to see if there installing in the local account admin desktop folder.
    If that darn pop up had not showed up I would have never known there was anything wrong. Because of the pop up I noticed the permissions were messed up also. Well lets see what happens using this local account... Thanks again for the help...
     
    Raner, Jul 4, 2017
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  6. Try3 Win User
    You have not posted a screenshot of the Settings, Accounts, My family & other animals list or the list of folders within C:\Users\... so we do not know the whole story.

    You will also need to use a set of net user commands, such as Net user Garcia-1, to identify your user accounts so start with Net user on its own and then work through each user name it lists. {Ignore these user accounts - Administrator, DefaultAccount} There is some guidance on interpreting the results in section 1 of If the Admin prompt has a greyed out or missing Yes button but no password entry box, use the Built-In Admin account in Safe mode to create two new Admin accounts - Wiki The username listed by the Net user command should normally match the user folder path with C:\Users\... but this is not true for accounts that were created as local user accounts and only later converted into MSAccount-linked user accounts.

    By the way, in the picture you showed above, Administrators [plural] is a red herring and nothing to be worried about. Administrators [plural] is a group of users - all those accounts with Admin-level status belong to this group.

    You have obscured the email addresses in the usernames so we here have no way of knowing whether or not the two user accounts are linked to the same MSAccount. Even if they are, they will have different folder paths within C:\Users\... If you have difficulty deciding which user account is related to which user folder then find out using the command prompt command wmic useraccount list full in combination with the RegEdit entry HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList.

    Denis
     
    Try3, Jul 4, 2017
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  7. Raner Win User
    Hi Try3, Thanks for the comeback...


    My admin account switched to a user account! [​IMG]




    My admin account switched to a user account! [​IMG]




    My admin account switched to a user account! [​IMG]




    My admin account switched to a user account! [​IMG]




    My admin account switched to a user account! [​IMG]




    My admin account switched to a user account! [​IMG]




    My admin account switched to a user account! [​IMG]


    I don't know if this is all you needed but if you need something else just let me know...Thanks...
    Here is the link to the Thread that got be to post this Thread.
    I'm down to the last thing that I need to address
     
    Raner, Jul 4, 2017
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  8. Try3 Win User

    My admin account switched to a user account!

    Raner - Just to keep this aspect separate in the hope of avoiding confusion.

    In I'm down to the last thing that I need to address you seem to want to turn off UAC. That is up to you.

    UAC is not of itself a security control [it was designed to be a convenience tool so that standard users could be helped to complete higher level tasks without an Admin user having to use the switch users feature then log in].

    However, to all intents & purposes, it is a component of Windows' overall security framework in that it forces notifications of higher level tasks being run. If you turn off UAC then hackers & malware will also enjoy the convenience of higher level access without any notification being produced - in other words, hackers & malware can work behind your back, without your knowledge.

    Denis
     
    Try3, Jul 4, 2017
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  9. Try3 Win User
    Raner,

    Some of the diagrams you have posted are inconsistent & I will list my observations in my next post.

    Personally, I think the immediate action you should take is to create a password-protected local user account with Admin status and write its password down somewhere secure. This will give you a means of accessing your computer to sort things out if the inconsistencies do turn out to limit the operation of your normal user account.

    {You are probably aware of Password reset disks but they also need to be kept securely and they achieve no more than writing your password down achieves.}

    Denis
     
    Try3, Jul 4, 2017
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  10. Raner Win User
    Thanks for the tip...Try3... I just added the link to let you know what was going on.
    The pop up I was getting was not from the UAC it was because the short-cut Icons are being installed in the users/public/desktop folder. Instead of the users/Garcia-1/ Desktop Folder. I don't know why this is happening. Is windows 10 seeing the admin account as user account. Since I only have one account and it's suppose an admin account why is window 10 getting confused.
     
    Raner, Jul 4, 2017
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  11. Try3 Win User
    Raner,

    Here are my observations concerning both sets of diagrams you have posted.

    A You obscured your email address in all but one diagram [the NetPlWiz one] so I suggest that you obscure it there as well.



    The hub of the situation as I understand it

    1 The NetPlWiz diagram shows two entries for user accounts but your Family & other animals diagram shows no accounts other than the account you were logged into when you looked there {conceivably you could have created Family members since there is that warning that you are offline so it cannot check if it has the latest info on that. But you have not said anything about that so I doubt that.} I have not seen this combination before.

    2 Taken together with the wmic results diagram, it seems that you have converted your Built-In Admin account into an MSAccount linked to a different email address [because its Fullname entry is not the same as that for the Rene Garcia MSAccount]. This might have been by accident [perhaps you logged into the Windows store while you were logged in to this account and were forced to identify your self using an MSAccount that the Store created at that moment]. I think that Built-In Admin account is the mysterious additional entry in the NetPlWiz diagram.

    3 It might be the case that all you have to do is unlink the Built-In Admin from its MSAccount and all will be well. Personally, I would only attempt to do this after creating the spare local Admin account I mentioned before. Reverting an account to a local one from an MSAccount-linked one can cause confusion about passwords - the Built-In Admin originally had no password but its linkage must have forced one onto it because that's what MSAccounts do. Because of the difficulty in deciding which user account is which I think you should disable the Built-In Admin [open an elevated Command prompt window then enter this command net user Administrator /active:no] then check that you are logging in correctly to the account you want.

    4 When you can log in and understand what is going on then you can check which account has been using which C:\Users\...folder.

    Denis
    [each sentenceis tkin en minutes to wrie hen correct because not all m keypressesor ursor movements are registering crrecty in theedingwindow]
     
  12. Try3 Win User
    Raner,

    Regarding your last post, I think you enabled then logged into the Built-In Admin and accessed online MS services [such as the Windows store] without realising that they can alter user accounts.

    All Windows computers have a Built-In Admin account [it has the username Administrator] as well as the Admin user account that was created by the user during Windows' installation. The Built-In Admin account exists for one purpose - to appear in the Safe mode login screen if it recognises that there are no functioning Admin-level accounts on the computer [as a result of corruption such as user profile corruption]. The Built-In Admin account is normally disabled and should be left that way. The Built-In Admin cannot be reverted to its default settings and cannot be fixed if it becomes corrupted.

    I was going to add more observations but the editing window was misbehaving -

    B The C:\Users\... folder diagram implies that you enabled and renamed the Built-In Admin account several times in 2015. Those folders beginning Administrator-RRG-* all look to me like renamed Built-In Admin logins.

    C I have never experienced a login failure that resulted in being logged in with a temporary user profile. I think that the existence of the folder C:\Users\TEMP means that you have.

    D I have never seen a ProfileList like the one you posted. The S-1-5-18 to 21 all look normal but I have never seen an S-1-5-82 entry [and could not find any reference to it in MSDN].

    E If you want to collect further data before attacking the problem then, as soon as you have made the additional password-protected Admin account I mentioned before, run this in a command prompt windowReg query "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList" /f ProfileImagePath /sand note down the C:\Users\... folder paths used by each user and the SID {the S-1-* bit} [ignore the S-1-5-18 to S-1-5-20 entries]. Then look again at your wmic useraccount list full results to check which username {the Name= entries in the list} and, for MSAccount-linked user accounts, to check the full online account's name {the FullName= entries in the list} relates to which SID. This will allow you to relate each username to each C:\Users\... folder path in use.

    F Of course, if you have decent backups you could bypass all the confusion by reinstalling Windows 10. But I do not know your circumstances other than that you upgraded from Windows 7. A clean reinstallation can allow you to start fro scratch again.

    Denis
     
  13. Bree New Member

    My admin account switched to a user account!

    Unfortunately that is not possible. Microsoft provide no mechanism to do so because it shouldn't be possible to link the built in Administrator account in the first place - except that it can happen under a specific limited set of circumstances....

    Unable to unlink MS account back to local

    If that is indeed the case here, then a clean install is the only remedy.
     
  14. Try3 Win User
    The first of the many diagrams in this thread show that the link Sign in with a local account instead is displayed for the account that is currently logged on and so the reversion procedure might work for this account. For normal circumstances, that would initiate the conversion back to a local account for the user account currently logged in - see my 23rd & 26th September 2016 posts in revert to local account from one converted to MSAccount. I have no way of knowing how Windows will react to an attempt to use this procedure for the Built-In Admin account and I do not know if that link Sign in with a local account instead will be displayed or not.

    I think I side-stepped this issue by suggesting that that
    • An extra password-protected Admin level account is created, and
    • The Built-In Admin is disabled, and
    • The recovery attempt focuses on whichever existing user account remains active afterwards.

    Personally, I would reinstall Windows 10 without even attempting this recovery. Installation takes very little effort once everything is backed up and the only necessary user interactions are right at the start & right at the end so it can be initiated before making a pot of tea. It took about 30, 60 & 90 minutes for each of my computers [the 30 minuter is 6 months old, the 60 minuter is 7 years old, 90 minuter is 12 years old].

    Raner - I am trying to avoid sounding like I am nagging you into doing a clean install.
    • Once you have recovered the existing user account you can attempt to re-enable & remove the MSAccount link from your Built-In Admin if that link appears in Settings, Accounts.
    • Bree says it cannot be done and I think the same but I have never tried - I have never been able to get to Settings using the Built-In Admin because it cannot run any Windows 10 Apps so I do not know how it can be done [but the diagrams in Bree's link shows that those users got there].
    • Even though I have the safety of having created two spare password-protected Admin accounts I would not want to know that my Built-In Admin was sitting in the background but unable to help me if my other accounts were corrupted.

    Denis
     
  15. Raner Win User
    Thanks Try3 for spending a lot of your time helping out.
    But I think your right, Its looking more and more like a clean install...
    The reason I say this, Is because I made a local windows login last night. I had never made one didn't think I'd ever need it.
    Anyway I'm still getting the all the download shot-cut icons on the public user desktop and my admin rights only have special permissions check mark same as the Microsoft login, I'm getting the same damn popup because I have no admin rights...
    I checked on the users main folder and the administrator is ticked on...
    Oh and more more thing, I have never turned on the hidden administrator and I just checked it's still off.
    I'm going play with this a bit more...
    Just two things I really need to fix if possible... well it's really one thing, if I can get windows to load the real admin account, that will
    fix the short-cut icons from going to the wrong user folder. When I make folders, text files, you name it, other then the icon shortcuts ,all the stuff is going to the Garcia-1 admin account... Is that weird or what...
    If worst comes to worse , Is it possible to do a reinstall but keeping all my personal files...
    If I do a clean install but save all my personal file in external drive and put them back will they work properly.
    I got 5 drives on this pc, I can unhook all of them and just leave c drive connected.
    I've done this before on windows 7 everything on the drives I disconnect worked fine when I hooked them back up.
    But a lot of the stuff that I put back into c drive did not work...
    Most likely because all the files that the software uses were stored in c dive and there were gone after the reinstall...
    And last but not least is there a cmd command to give my account full control if there is that may fix it good enough
    for now anyway...
    When I edit the permissions on my account to full control on a folder that is giving me the popup it's gone
    when my account has full control... It would be nice to change the permissions to full control on my admin account
    on the whole damn computer by typing one command and hitting enter...LOL...
    Thanks again for helping me out, I really appreciated...RRG...*Banghead
     
    Raner, Jul 4, 2017
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