Windows 10: Windows 10 often boots fast, but much slower at times

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  1. socklosk Win User

    Windows 10 often boots fast, but much slower at times


    I have my OS on an SSD and my computer often boots in about 10-15 seconds but after about every 5 boots, it takes 30-40 seconds. There is nothing unusual in the Event Viewer when it boots slowly (usually some 10016 errors and a 360 warning all the times). Any idea why this happens? It's not a big problem but I'm curious why it happens and I would like to fix it. I reinstalled Windows and it still happens. My memory and SSD drive tests fine. THANKS!

    :)
     
    socklosk, Jul 16, 2018
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  2. MrGenius Win User

    Windows 10 Boot Times Showdown

    I just finished up testing various boot time scenarios for Windows 10 Pro 64 on my system. I've been curious for well over a year now, since I installed W10, to see how much UEFI GOP boot would speed up my boot times. The thing is my graphics card didn't have a UEFI BIOS. So I flashed one on it today and ran some tests. And I came up with some pretty interesting results after testing with UEFI GOP boot and without it, in combination with other boot options enabled(On) or disabled(Off). All tests done with W10 installed on my WD Black 7200 rpm 64MB SATA-III HDD, my MSI Z77A-GC65 Gaming motherboard, and my MSI R9 280X Gaming OC 3GB graphics card.

    The boot options in my motherboard UEFI/BIOS that I tested are:

    UEFI GOP Boot(called Windows 8 Feature in my motherboard UEFI/BIOS) with Secure Boot disabled
    MSI Fast Boot
    Fast Boot with PS2 support enabled, SATA & USB support disabled
    (each device type can be enabled or disabled for POST while using Fast Boot, allowing for faster boot times with more devices disabled for POST, or slower boot times with more devices enabled for POST)

    Notes: MSI Fast Boot cannot be used with Fast Boot. You can only choose to run one or the other. I leave PS2 support enabled so I can use my PS2 keyboard delete key to access the BIOS after POST. If I disable PS2 support I lose that functionality. Even though it might cause my boot times to be a second or so slower by not disabling it. It's a trade-off.

    The Windows 10 power options I tested are:

    Fast Startup
    Hibernation
    Hybrid Sleep

    Note: Fast Startup does not apply to Hibernation or Sleep scenarios.

    I ran tests with the various options enabled(On) or disabled(Off), in a variety of configurations. I booted from a shut down with each configuration at least 3 times and recorded how long it took. Boot time started when I hit the power button and ended when the desktop background image was shown. I'm not particularly interested in average times or slowest times. I'm trying to figure out which way to configure the options that will give me the fastest boot time. All configurations varied slightly during separate runs. It's going to happen no matter what you do. So what's of real interest to me is which configuration is capable of being fastest. It doesn't have to be that fast every time. And I can guarantee it won't be anyway. So let's just look at the fastest times I was able to achieve with each configuration and call it good. *Smile Windows 10 often boots fast, but much slower at times :)

    Starting with the slowest configuration, and ending with the fastest configuration:

    UEFI GOP Boot with Secure Boot disabled: On
    Fast Boot with PS2 enabled, SATA & USB disabled: On
    Fast Startup: Off
    Best time = 2 minutes 17.29 seconds


    UEFI GOP Boot with Secure Boot disabled: On
    MSI Fast Boot: On
    Fast Startup: Off
    Best time = 2 minutes 14.04 seconds

    Hybrid Sleep
    Note: Hybrid Sleep is not working properly on my system, Non-Hybrid Sleep doesn't work at all
    Best time = 1 minute 21.76 seconds


    UEFI GOP Boot with Secure Boot disabled: On
    MSI Fast Boot: Off
    Fast Boot with PS2 enabled, SATA & USB disabled: Off
    Fast Startup: Off
    Note: :"Just UEFI GOP Boot On" test
    Best time = 1 minute 0.76 seconds

    UEFI GOP Boot with Secure Boot disabled: Off
    Fast Boot with PS2 enabled, SATA & USB disabled: On
    Fast Startup: Off
    Note: :"Just Fast Boot with PS2 enabled, SATA & USB disabled On" test
    Best time = 51.90 seconds


    UEFI GOP Boot with Secure Boot disabled: Off
    MSI Fast Boot: Off
    Fast Boot with PS2 enabled, SATA & USB disabled: Off
    Fast Startup: Off
    Note: "Everything Off" test
    Best time = 51.87 seconds

    UEFI GOP Boot with Secure Boot disabled: Off
    MSI Fast Boot: Off
    Fast Boot with PS2 enabled, SATA & USB disabled: Off
    Fast Startup: Off
    Note: "Just MSI Fast Boot On" test
    Best time = 51.17 seconds

    UEFI GOP Boot with Secure Boot disabled: Off
    MSI Fast Boot: Off
    Fast Boot with PS2 enabled, SATA & USB disabled: Off
    Fast Startup: On
    Note: "Just Fast Startup On" test
    Best time = 27.54 seconds

    Hibernation
    UEFI GOP Boot with Secure Boot disabled: Off
    MSI Fast Boot: Off
    Fast Boot with PS2 enabled, SATA & USB disabled: Off
    Note: "Just Hibernation" test
    Best time: 24.28 seconds


    UEFI GOP Boot with Secure Boot disabled: On
    MSI Fast Boot: On
    Fast Startup: On
    Best time = 23.66 seconds


    UEFI GOP Boot with Secure Boot disabled: Off
    MSI Fast Boot: On
    Fast Startup: On
    Best time = 23.43 seconds


    UEFI GOP Boot with Secure Boot disabled: Off
    Fast Boot with PS2 enabled, SATA & USB disabled: On
    Fast Startup: On
    Best time = 22.75 seconds

    UEFI GOP Boot with Secure Boot disabled: On
    Fast Boot with PS2 enabled, SATA & USB disabled: On
    Fast Startup: On
    Best time = 22.38 seconds

    Hibernation
    UEFI GOP Boot with Secure Boot disabled: On
    MSI Fast Boot: Off
    Fast Boot with PS2 enabled, SATA & USB disabled: Off
    Best time: 22.31 seconds

    Hibernation
    UEFI GOP Boot with Secure Boot disabled: Off
    Fast Boot with PS2 enabled, SATA & USB disabled: On
    Best time = 20.40 seconds

    Hibernation
    UEFI GOP Boot with Secure Boot disabled: Off
    MSI Fast Boot: On
    Best time = 19.87 seconds


    Hibernation
    UEFI GOP Boot with Secure Boot disabled: On
    MSI Fast Boot: On
    Best time: 18.69 seconds


    Hibernation
    UEFI GOP Boot with Secure Boot disabled: On
    Fast Boot with PS2 enabled, SATA & USB disabled: On
    Best time = 18.38 seconds


    Conclusions:

    UEFI GOP boot with Secure Boot disabled: Horrible when used with MSI Fast Boot or Fast Boot On and Fast Startup Off. Significantly, and surprisingly, less horrible when used on its own(with MSI Fast Boot or Fast Boot Off and Fast Startup Off). Apparently does nothing if MSI Fast Boot or Fast Boot is On and Fast Startup is On(when not used also with Hibernation). Good for at least 2 second faster boot times when used by itself with Hibernation, or ~6 second faster boot times when used with MSI Fast Boot or Fast Boot with PS2 enabled, SATA & USB disabled On and Hibernation.

    MSI Fast Boot: Works great with Fast Startup On. Shortened boot times by more than 50% compared with having just it On and Fast Startup Off. Horrible when used with just UEFI GOP Boot On(and Fast Startup Off). Apparently does nothing significant when used on its own(like with UEFI GOP Boot Off and Fast Startup Off). With less than 1 second difference between using it on its own and having "Everything Off". Good for ~2.5 seconds faster boot times when used by itself with Hibernation, or ~4 second faster boot times used with Hibernation and UEFI GOP Boot On.

    Fast Boot with PS2 enabled, SATA & USB disabled: Basically same as MSI Fast Boot. Works great with Fast Startup On. Shortened boot times by more than 50% compared with having just it On and Fast Startup Off. Although ~ 3 seconds slower than MSI Fast Boot in the worst case scenario(like with UEFI GOP Boot also On and Fast Startup Off), it's ~.3 seconds faster in the best case scenario(like with Hibernation). Horrible when used with just UEFI GOP Boot On(and Fast Startup Off). Apparently does nothing significant when used on its own(like with UEFI GOP Boot Off and Fast Startup Off). With less than 1 second difference between using it on its own and having "Everything Off". Good for ~2 seconds faster boot times when used by itself with Hibernation, or ~3.5 second faster boot times used with Hibernation and UEFI GOP Boot On.

    Fast Startup: THE GAME CHANGER!!! It can lower boot times by almost 2 minutes in worst case scenarios. And by at least 24 seconds in best case scenarios.

    "Everything Off"(UEFI GOP Boot Off, MSI Fast Boot Off, Fast Boot Off, and Fast Startup Off): Strangely "pretty good by comparison" boot times. You can do much better, but surprisingly much much worse too.

    Hybrid Sleep: Like I said...it doesn't work properly on my system. So YMMV. See one of my previous posts for a detailed explanation of what I mean by "doesn't work properly".

    Hibernation: THE HANDS DOWN WINNER!!! Faster in every configuration scenario except when used by itself with all other options Off.

    Tips:

    Turn Hibernation On in Command Prompt (Admin)
    Code: powercfg -h on[/quote] Turn Hibernation Off in Command Prompt (Admin)
    Code: powercfg -h off[/quote] Further reading:

    Windows 10: Turn On or Off Fast Startup in Windows 10
    Windows 10: Specify Hiberfile Type as Full or Reduced in Windows 10
    Windows 10: Check if Last Boot from Hybrid, Full, or Hibernate in Windows 8 and 10

    EDIT: There's one other factor to consider too. Namely Superfetch. It's on by default and has a significant impact on boot times. I'd noticed some time ago that without Superfetch On boot times were a lot slower. And I just ran a bunch of tests with the other configurations shown above and Superfetch Off(since it was On for all of those tests). For the sake of brevity I'll just cut to the chase and give you the low down on it. In every test so far with SuperFetch disabled(Off) boot times have been slower. And I can't imagine a scenario where that might not be the case. That is of course unless you might be using a SSD instead of a HDD. Since I've heard that Superfetch can be bad for performance in general with a SDD(not sure about boot times, but I'd imagine the same applies). So, unless you're using a SSD as your boot drive, my recommendation is to have Superfetch enabled(On) for faster boot times. If not just for overall system performance. Which I've also noticed is slowed down without it enabled(using a HDD anyway).

    More info on enabling or disabling Superfetch:

    Windows 10, 8 & 7: Enable or Disable Superfetch
     
    MrGenius, Jul 16, 2018
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  3. 40wnks Win User
    Boot time is getting slower and slower







    I built my latest PC and upgraded the Windows 10 Home 32 bit to 64 bit back in December. I have 32GB RAM and have an I7 processor. My boot times continue to get slower and slower the past several months. I have googled solutions and tried many including booting into safe (no faster), using msconfig and the bootlog and verbose boot log and disabling services etc. Nothing seems to improve it. The OS is on a 256 GB OCZ SSD. I would love suggestions to speed up the boot which is about 4 minutes now. Would doing a clean install with a newly purchased Windows 10 Home or Pro solve it. That is my last choice. Thanks for reading.
    Thanks,
    Bill
     
    40wnks, Jul 16, 2018
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  4. EdTittel Win User

    Windows 10 often boots fast, but much slower at times

    Boot time is getting slower and slower


    I had a Vertex 4 on my previous build with a Haswell i7 and a X79 motherboard. Boot times were on the order of 30-40 seconds, from machine turn-on to entering the login password to getting a desktop on-screen. Use that as a point of comparison if you think it apt. 4 minutes is definitely way too long. Does the Gigabyte BIOS offer a fast boot option? Maybe that will help some, as will trimming the boot options for Windows (there's a 30-second default in there for timeout, which I usually trim to 10).

    Windows 10 often boots fast, but much slower at times [​IMG]

    HTH,
    --Ed--
     
    EdTittel, Jul 16, 2018
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