Windows 10: Windows Update MiniTool

The one thing I should have asked was whether I needed to turn the Windows Update service back on? I currently have it disabled.

 

Again your choice. WUMT and the native Windows Update in Windows 10 (Settings) both use the same Windows Update service. From my personal experience, I would recommend leaving Windows Update service set to its default of Manual. In addition you may want to consider setting the native Windows Update to Disabled. You can do that from the Automatic Updates dropdown (lower left corner of WUMT) to prevent WUMT and Windows Update from possibly running at the same time. You can manually check for updates in the native Windows Update at any time even when this is set to Disabled. Set in this manner you are now free to run WUMT to check for updates and pick the ones you want and yes even hide the ones you don't want.

 

I use this as an alternative to WU.

Problem is, if you are running the Home version of Win10, Windows update will automatically install whatever updates are available for your system. Then if you happen to run WUMT, you will get the same updates, and, should you wish to install them, you will have installed the same update(s) twice. You have no option to prevent WU from installing updates in the Home version. In the Pro version, you can set WU to show you what updates are available but you have to click the 'download' then the 'install' icon before anything is installed. This gives you the opportunity to check via WUMT to see if you get the same updates as WU offers (you do, and sometimes more than that if there are driver updates, etc.)

I also use 'Shut Up 10' to disable Peer-to-Peer Windows Updates (1 to 3), auto driver updates, auto app updates through WU as well as auto Window Updates (1 & 2).


P.S. I also have 3 Japanese language files (for dictionary!!) installed when i check WUMT what updates are installed! I never seen this offered at any time for Windows 10 - either from WU or WUMT - weird!

 

Have you tried disabling Automatic Updates in Windows Update via WUMT as I described in Post 15? For me this has eliminated the possibility of double updates. Realize that the Automatic Updates dropdown in WUMT changes how Windows Update checks for updates not how WUMT checks for updates. WUMT will never automatically check for updates. It is up to the user to decide when to run WUMT and what updates to install. WUMT is basically a manual user interface for the Windows update service.

Also you do not have click both the "Download" then the "Install" icons to install updates. Once you have checked for updates and have selected the updates that you want simply click the "Install" icon. WUMT will then download and install the updates

As for the 3 Japanese language file updates, I do not have a clue why they show in WUMT. I just ignore them.

 

Thanks for this explanation, very helpful.

Can you also please advise on how WUMT interacts with the Windows device driver installation setting?

IE Device Driver Automatic Installation - Turn On or Off in Windows 10?

I currently have mine to 'No' using option 1 per the above referenced tutorial.

 

I think the best answer I can give regarding the how WUMT interacts with the Windows device driver installation setting is to say I do not know. I do not think there would be any interaction between them, but that is just my personal opinion and I have no empirical evidence either way. If WUMT ever showed me a driver update I did not want I would select that update and then click the Hide icon (the icon with two arrows). WUMT will then hide the update and then begin a rescan for updates.

 

Yes, 'auto updates' in WUMT set to disabled and 'update service' left in default. Still, say you start up Win10 and open WUMT to check for updates, WU has already automatically checked and downloaded the updates, wanted or not. You have no choice with Win10 Home version as to whether to install or not, they are automatically installed via WU. Now if you don't check WU but check through WUMT, you will get the same updates and manually install them, thinking that you've only installed them once, when, in fact, you've installed them TWICE - once automatically via WU and manually via WUMT!

At least in the Pro version which i run on my desktop, i've finagled the update system to the point where WU will check for updates, show them but i have to click both 'download' & 'install' before anything happens. Happening this way, it gives me the option of using WUMT exclusively to download/install updates singularly, not duplicated.

See my conundrum? Perhaps you don't run the Home version so it's a moot point for you but for those who do, WUMT is useless since it can't prevent WU from auto installing.

Furthermore, until today, for 2 days straight, i was offered the same update again as the one i'd already installed. It was only today that i did not show up.

So...i like the tool IF it does what it is advertised to be able to do. If not, what's the use - and i use 'Shut Up 10', 'Windows Update Show & Hide' as well as WUMT to control what is installed with very degrees of success.

You have the Japanese dictionary downloads too?? I don't know how they possible got installed!

 

I understand now and I must concede I see no joy in using WUMT in Windows 10 Home. Nothing but disappointment and frustration will be the end results. I have pointed out these short comings on the forum where I first learned about WUMT.

One user on another other forum reported having success on his Windows 10 Home laptop by doing the following:

On Home, you can have full control with WUMT if you set your wireless connection to metered and:[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DriverSearching]
"SearchOrderConfig"=dword:00000000

It would be a great addition for this software to also have a drop down menu to control this setting.

 

Portable Update: Update Windows in an isolated environment. The first. The best.

 

Yes, i set mine to metered connection yesterday. Didn't know about the registry edit - but, \DriverSearching\?? I would have figured it would be related to Windows Updates not drivers?!

Today, on my desktop running the Pro version, i ran WUMT after almost an hour+ after i started computer (did software updates). It showed the 2 updates i had for the Laptop Home version & installed fine, it didn't even offer the 2nd update again as it had on the laptop. Even more importantly, WU did not automatically search for updates - i would have had to manually click on 'Check for Updates'

So...bottom line, thumbs up for anyone using WUMT on a Pro system and thumbs down on a Home system, or so it would seem *Wink

 

I came across a posting on the forums here that included a screenshot of Windows Update Mini Tool (WUMT) and was curious about it. I did some searching on line and saw a number of posts about it, as well as links to places like MajorGeeks.

One of the search links was to a thread on My Digital Life (MDL) that included a posting about a WUMT Intergrator. Since you had to be a member to see the post, I joined and read the post.

I was intrigued by the fact that the Intergrator gave you an elevated link on the desktop but more so by the fact that it claimed to be able to catch the windows update notification popup, so I grabbed it and installed it on two of my systems (after backing them up first, of course).

On one system, Windows Defender said that the contained a virus. Since I had the system backed up, I allowed it to run, with no ill effects so far. On the second system, there was no such notification. Neither system is exhibiting any unusual behavior and no untoward network activity.

Here's the post from MDL:

dobbelina - MDL Senior Member:

Windows Update MiniTool Integrator v1.0

"I have been working for several days, together with member qwerty12, to integrate
Windows Update MiniTool with Windows Update, and now it's awesome!
qwerty12 has made a custom dll that catches the Windows Update notification popup, so when you click it,

WUMT starts instead of the WU interface!

Not only that, it's also elevated, so you don't have to click the boring UAC prompt to run it,
and it starts to check for updates automatically!
I made a custom installer for it, and it's dead simple to use.
Just start the installer, and point to the folder where WUMT is located, and everything goes automatic.
It also creates an elevated shortcut on your desktop, so you can run WUMT on demand.
Uninstall script also gets copied over to the folder where WUMT is located.
At the end of the install process, you will get a little notification popup with a temporary 'Test Me' button, try that!

Works on both 32bit & 64bit Windows.

Download WUMT_Integrate_Installer:
WUMT_Integrate_Installer.zip WUMT_Integrate_Installer.zip WUMT_Integrate_Installer.zip - Google Drive

Download WUMT:
[ elided - see link below to author's site for WUMT downloads]

Added bonus, is that the dll also converts those annoying modal notifications that you can't escape, into
harmless toast notifications !

BIG THANKS! to qwerty12 for his efforts.
You can visit his GitHub page to read more about the dll if you want, here:
MusNotificationUxDownloadDialogRemover https://github.com/qwerty12/MusNotificationUxDownloadDialogRemover

*** EXPERIMENTAL ***
For Unattended Install, put wumt.ini in same folder as
WUMT_Integrate_Installer.exe and edit the 2 Options:
Silent=Yes
Wumt_Path="Program Files\WUMT"

(Has to be on the system drive, path above already resolves to %systemdrive% )"

From forum post at My Digital Life Forum:
https://forums.mydigitallife.info/th...ntegrator-v1-0

Latest version of WUMT at author's site is wumt_v30.09.2016 https://cloud.mail.ru/public/3E95/kvd9WCbUq

NOTES:
1 - The intergrator needs to be installed after WUMT. I just put them in the same directory before I ran it.
2 - I am running it on Windows Home 1607, Build 14393.351.

 

Hi everyone!

I installed WUMT and run a search in Notification mode. The result is the availability of a new driver. I chose to download it only. It has been regularly downloaded but... where WUMT did save it in my PC?

 

All windows updates whether from MS Windows Update or WUMT go to:
C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download provided Windows is installed in C:\Windows.

Note: I have a Cannon printer driver that shows up in WUMT also. I have chosen to hide it. If is working why mess with it? I am just saying.

 

That's the one area I forbid MS to mess with, my Canon MX410 drivers! They always mess it up!

Oh, BTW, this Windows Update MiniTool sets something that gives the "managed by your organization" message in Security and Updates. Anybody know what it is and how to reverse it?

 

I also have the "managed by your organiztion" when I set WUMT to Notification. It has to do with a registry setting changed by WUMT (the same one in Group Policy settings for Windows Upadate) that Windows Updates now insists on reading. I have no idea how to counteract this situation. I can live with the "managed by your organiztion" message in exchange for control of Windows Updates.