Windows 10: Windows 10 slow boot on SSD

Discus and support Windows 10 slow boot on SSD in Windows 10 Performance & Maintenance to solve the problem; I think I have found the problem. *Smile I have disconected all other hard drives and optical drives and it didn't helped at all. Did the same thing... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Performance & Maintenance' started by Tomaz, Sep 15, 2017.

  1. Tomaz Win User

    Windows 10 slow boot on SSD


    I think I have found the problem. *Smile

    I have disconected all other hard drives and optical drives and it didn't helped at all. Did the same thing for everything connected to my PC from outside (only left my monitor connected) and also nothing helped.


    So here it is ... Long time ago I have created two tiles (I use full screen pinned tiles when I press windows button - I keep there all my programs that I use often and want to run them quickly.) - or shortcuts you might say. One for restarting my PC and one for shutting it down. It was faster for me than clicking on windows button, then power button and then selecting shut down option.

    It looks like some windows update did something to this. When I tried turning off my PC with pressing windows icon, then selecting power button (lower left corner of the screen) and then "shut down" option, my PC booted into desktop from pressing power on button on my PC case in 20 seconds as it did before. *Smile

    So it looks like that that pinned shortcut for shut down I've made long time ago was somehow changed/influenced by some update sometime down the road.
     
    Tomaz, Sep 23, 2017
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  2. AndreTen Win User

    Can you post those shortcuts here? I mean cmd code, not actual shortcut *Smile Restart should be longer as normal shutdown, but you would notice, if PC is restarted...

    Anyway, great you sorted it out *Thumbs
     
    AndreTen, Sep 23, 2017
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  3. Tomaz Win User
    I think it was false alarm unfortunately.

    When I click on restart option, it still takes almost a minute and a half to get back into desktop.

    If I disable "fast start-up" under power options, then even clicking on that shut down option mentioned in my previous post took almost two minutes to get into desktop.

    I don't know if this is normal behaviour or not.


    I've made shortcuts long time ago like this: Shutdown - Restart shortcut Windows 10, how to create?
    And then pinned them to my startup screen with tiles.
     
    Tomaz, Sep 23, 2017
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  4. Tomaz Win User

    Windows 10 slow boot on SSD

    It's custom built PC. Windows 10 home, 16 GB DDR3, I7 4790k, 1070 GTX, MX100 256GB SSD drive and two aditional HDD drives plus one DVD-RW drive.



    Windows performance toolkit. Tried that and it took over 1 and a half minute on reboot to get back into desktop when the boot was recorded with that.

    Screen shot of what I got:


    Windows 10 slow boot on SSD [​IMG]
     
    Tomaz, Sep 23, 2017
    #19
  5. AndreTen Win User
    I'm no expert for examining Winperf results, but it seem that Cortana is waiting for input. Do you have signing in with Hello (camera, microphone..) enabled?

    You can disable this in settings / accounts /sign in
    or personalization / Lock screen /cortana
     
    AndreTen, Sep 25, 2017
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  6. mikey33rs Win User
    Problem with my PC is kind of same but little worse.
    From time I press power button till desktop is nearly 5 minutes.
    What I did try:
    - disconnecting everything except SSD, monitor, keyboard and mouse
    - sfc scan
    - SSD test
    - safe mode
    - AMD regedit tweak (if I remember correctly was for dual graphics card but give it a try)
    - checked start up programs
    - graphics card uninstal and DDU safe mode clean
    Maybe I did try something else that can't think of right now. There was a lot of troubleshooting.

    I did have same problem before and last time I did give up and reinstall Windows and everything was working as expected for like two months. Thats why I think is software problem rather then hardware. Once windows are loaded speed seems to be as expected. No problem in games or 3D software or while writing some problems on forums *Tongue
    Scenario: PC starts, MB logo, win logo with dots and here keyboard backlight and mouse light are off and I can't hear anything other then fans and after few minutes keyboard backlight and mouse light go on and desktop is ready in few seconds.
    If anyone have any clue what may be problem here - shoot. I have one more SSD on the side and once I will have time will install Windows and all drivers to see how it works. I doubt it will be before weekend tho, if even then.

    Thanks for any info in advance and let me know if I need to open new topic or continue on this one.
     
    mikey33rs, Jan 16, 2018
    #21
  7. zbook New Member
    zbook, Jan 16, 2018
    #22
  8. mikey33rs Win User

    Windows 10 slow boot on SSD

    I usully have Performance Power mode with Hibernation and Sleep off but did give cmd command a try with no luck. Also tried with Fast Startup on and off but don't think that have any impact on my problem. Long boot with and without that anyway.
     
    mikey33rs, Jan 17, 2018
    #23
  9. zinou Win User
    The screenshot of boot phases don't show any boot delay ! your desktop (Explorer init) is shown after 10 seconds !
     
    zinou, Jan 17, 2018
    #24
  10. zbook New Member
    Post a zip into the thread for troubleshooting:
    log collector v2-beta08.zip
     
    zbook, Jan 17, 2018
    #25
  11. zbook New Member
    The logs displayed WHEA 0 x 124 events.
    This is typically a hardware problem.
    The logs are in another language and partially in English.
    This makes it difficult to scan the logs.
    There were multiple event log entries where the GPU recovered.

    For WHEA 0 x 124 errors a systematic evaluation is done of each CPU, GPU, Drive, and RAM.


    For all tests /steps please post images into the thread.
    If there are any problems posting images please use one drive or drop box share links.
    Share OneDrive files and folders - Office Support
    Upload photos and files to OneDrive - OneDrive


    1) Open administrative command prompt and type or copy and paste:
    2) sfc /scannow
    3) dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth
    4) chkdsk /scan
    5) When these have completed > right click on the top bar or title bar of the administrative command prompt box > left click on edit then select all > right click on the top bar again > left click on edit then copy > paste into the thread

    6) Make sure that there is no over clocking while troubleshooting.

    7) Sometimes there are problems in the bios that produce bsod.
    The BIOS: Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 3401, 4.12.2017. SMBIOS Version 3.0
    8) Please check to see if this is the most up to date version.
    9) Open the website for the computer or motherboard manufacturer to view the drivers and post a URL or hyperlink into the thread.

    10) To ensure that there are no improper bios settings please reset the bios.
    11) Sometimes there can be failure to boot after resetting the bios.
    12) Backup the computer files to another drive or to the cloud.
    13) Make a backup image usig Macrium:
    Macrium Software | Macrium Reflect Free:
    Macrium Software | Macrium Reflect Free

    14) And please create a brand new restore point.

    How to Clear Your Computers CMOS to Reset BIOS Settings:
    How to Clear Your Computers CMOS to Reset BIOS Settings
    3 Ways to Reset Your BIOS - wikiHow:
    3 Ways to Reset Your BIOS - wikiHow

    15) If the computer has Ccleaner > click windows tab > scroll down to system and advanced > post an image into the thread

    16) In the left lower corner search type clean > open disk cleanup > scroll up and down > post images into the thread

    17) In the left lower corner search type: system or system control > open system control panel > on the left pane click advanced system settings
    > on the advanced tab under startup and recovery click settings > post an image of the startup and recovery into the thread.
    > on the advanced tab under performance > click on settings > click on advanced tab > under virtual memory click on change > post an image of the virtual memory tab into the thread

    18) Download and install Whocrashed > in the left upper corner above analyze click on tools > crash dump test > type: ACCEPT
    Resplendence Software - WhoCrashed, automatic crash dump analyzer
    19) Click analyze > look for dead or deaddead in the results > post the results into the thread
    20) Run this version of the log collector after the above steps:
    BSOD - Posting Instructions - Windows 10 Forums

    21) When testing for WHEA hardware errors we need to systematically check CPU, GPU, RAM and drive.
    Some testing may have been done but there may have been overclocking.
    Once the bios is reset and there is no overclocking:

    22) Choose one of the temperature monitoring software applications: Speecy, HW monitor, Speed fan:
    Speccy - Free Download - Piriform: Speccy - System Information - Free
    Speccy - System Information - Free Download
    HWMONITOR | Softwares | CPUID: HWMONITOR | Softwares | CPUID
    HWMONITOR | Softwares | CPUID
    SpeedFan - Access temperature sensor in your computer: SpeedFan - Access temperature sensor in your computer
    SpeedFan - Access temperature sensor in your computer

    23) Run Prime95 - Stress Test Your CPU
    Prime95 - Stress Test Your CPU Windows 10 Performance Maintenance Tutorials
    Prime95 - Stress Test Your CPU Performance Maintenance Tutorials
    24) Record the maximum temperature and post the maximum temperature into the thread
    25) Record test duration and post the uninterrupted test duration into the thread
    26) Aim for testing > 3 hrs and abort testing as needed for freezing, temperature changes (see link)
    27) Use the Microsoft snipping tool to post images into the thread.
    Take Screenshot in Windows 10 Windows 10 General Tips Tutorials
    Take Screenshot in Windows 10 General Tips Tutorials

    28) Run memtest86+ version 5.01 for at least 8 passes.
    Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool
    This may take hours so plan to run it overnight.
    Please make sure you use the Memtest86+ version 5.01 with the link below.
    Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool
    The testing is done not by time but by passes.
    The more passes the better.
    There are a significant number of false negatives if fewer than 8 passes are made.
    A false negative is a test pass when there is malfunctioning RAM.
    There is 16 GB of RAM on the computer.
    Memtest86+ version 5.01 testing takes approximately 1 - 2 hours /GB RAM
    Just 1 error is a fail and you can abort testing.
    Then test 1 RAM module at a time in the same DIMM each for 8 or more passes.
    When Memtest86+ has completed 8 or more passes use a camera or smart phone camera to take a picture and post an image into the thread.
    Memory problems. - Microsoft Community
    MemTest86+ - Test RAM BSOD Tutorials

    29) Run HD Sentinel: (free or trial edition)
    Hard Disk Sentinel - HDD health and temperature monitoring
    Hard Disk Sentinel - HDD health and temperature monitoring
    a) click disk > surface test > post image into the thread
    (this may take several hours to complete)
    Post images of each of these tabs into the thread:
    b) Overview tab
    c) Temperature
    d) SMART
    e) Disk performance
    When it has completed please use the Microsoft snipping to make images and post them into the thread.
    Take Screenshot in Windows 10 Windows 10 General Tips Tutorials
    Take Screenshot in Windows 10 General Tips Tutorials

    30) Run FurMark - GPU Stress Test Windows 10 Performance Maintenance Tutorials
    FurMark - GPU Stress Test Windows 10 Performance Maintenance Tutorials:
    FurMark - GPU Stress Test Performance Maintenance Tutorials
    Please make note of the importance of temperature monitoring and aborting the test in the GPU link.
    31) Record the maximum temperature and post the maximum temperature into the thread.
    32) Record the test duration and post the uninterrupted test duration into the thread.
    33) Aim for testing 1 hour.
    34) Use the Microsoft snipping tool to post images into the thread.
    Take Screenshot in Windows 10 Windows 10 General Tips Tutorials
    Take Screenshot in Windows 10 General Tips Tutorials

    35) All of these test should be done with the bios reset and no over clocking.

    36) For each of the above tests please record maximum temperatures and test duration.

    37) And please make sure that you use the Microsoft snipping tool to post images of each into the thread.
    Take Screenshot in Windows 10 Windows 10 General Tips Tutorials

    38) Please update the information on the computer specifications:
    System Specs - Fill in at Ten Forums:
    System Specs - Fill in at Ten Forums Site Use Tutorials
    In the left corner below in your post you find 'My System Specs'.
    After clicking it you can find a link a little below that says 'Update your System Spec', click on this link to get to the page where you can fill in your system specs.
    System Info - See Your System Specs - Windows 7 Help Forums

    Include PSU. cooler, case, peripherals and anything attached to the computer by wired or wireless (mouse, keyboard, headset, printer, xbox, etc.)

    39) Open administrative command prompt and type or copy and paste: chkdsk /x /f /r
    C:\Windows\system32>chkdsk /x /f /r
    The type of the file system is NTFS.
    Cannot lock current drive.

    Chkdsk cannot run because the volume is in use by another
    process. Would you like to schedule this volume to be
    checked the next time the system restarts? (Y/N)

    Type: Y
    reboot

    Run the command on all drives using the syntax: chkdsk /x /f /r C: or chkdsk /x /f /r D: changing the drive letter to the applicable drive.
    This may take many hours to run so plan to run it overnight.
    40) Post the chkdsk results into the thread:
    Read Chkdsk Log in Event Viewer in Windows 10 Windows 10 Performance Maintenance Tutorials
     
    zbook, Jan 18, 2018
    #26
  12. mikey33rs Win User
    Well, that is a lot of tests... Don't get me wrong, I will run them and post pictures and results. It will take some time (couple of nights just for some tests) but hopefully will get some promising results. I em at work now but planing to start collecting info once I get home.

    Just a question: Is it better to update one post as I get tests done to have every test on one place or open new post for every new test completed?

    Thanks again for this "Mega Testing Suite 2018" and will do my best to post results as soon as possible.
     
    mikey33rs, Jan 18, 2018
    #27
  13. zbook New Member

    Windows 10 slow boot on SSD

    Please post results as they are completed.
    Then check the list to complete all the testing.
    The WHEA 0 x 124 involve a lot of testing to rule in /rule out the hardware.
     
    zbook, Jan 18, 2018
    #28
  14. mikey33rs Win User
    My tests (pictures are numbered by representing number in "Ultimate testing suite 2018" from post #25 *Biggrin ), more coming up...
    2.
    Code: Microsoft Windows[Version 10.0.16299.192] (c) 2017 MicrosoftCorporation. All rights reserved. C:\Windows\system32>sfc /scannow Beginning system scan. This process will take some time. Beginning verification phase of system scan. Verification 100%complete. Windows ResourceProtection did not find any integrity violations. C:\Windows\system32>[/quote] 3.
    Code: MicrosoftWindows [Version 10.0.16299.192] (c) 2017Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Windows\system32>dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool Version:10.0.16299.15 Image Version: 10.0.16299.192 [==========================100.0%==========================] The restore operation completed successfully. The operation completed successfully. C:\Windows\system32>[/quote] 4.
    Code: C:\Windows\system32>chkdsk /scan The type of the file system is NTFS. Stage 1: Examining basic file system structure ... 288768 filerecords processed. File verificationcompleted. 7866 large filerecords processed. 0 bad filerecords processed. Stage 2: Examining file name linkage ... 200 reparserecords processed. 391702 indexentries processed. Indexverification completed. 0 unindexedfiles scanned. 0 unindexedfiles recovered to lost and found. 200 reparserecords processed. Stage 3: Examining security descriptors ... Securitydescriptor verification completed. 51468 datafiles processed. CHKDSK isverifying Usn Journal... 38803600 USNbytes processed. Usn Journalverification completed. Windows has scanned the file system and found no problems. No further actionis required. 243568639 KB total disk space. 63102892 KB in196235 files. 133864 KB in51469 indexes. 0 KB inbad sectors. 404807 KB inuse by the system. 65536 KBoccupied by the log file. 179927076 KBavailable on disk. 4096 bytes in each allocation unit. 60892159 totalallocation units on disk. 44981769allocation units available on disk. C:\Windows\system32>[/quote] 7. 3401 is the last version of MB firmware
    9. PRIME B350-PLUS Driver & Tools | Motherboards | ASUS USA
    14. Restore point created

    19. Code: System Information (local) Computer name: MANFRED Windows version: Windows 10 , 10.0, build: 16299 Windows dir: C:\Windows Hardware: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC., PRIME B350-PLUS CPU: AuthenticAMD AMD Ryzen 7 1700X Eight-Core Processor AMD586, level: 23 16 logical processors, active mask: 65535 RAM: 17114927104 bytes total Crash Dump Analysis Crash dumps are enabled on your computer. Crash dump directories: C:\Windows C:\Windows\Minidump No valid crash dumps have been found on your computer Conclusion Crash dumps are enabled but no valid crash dumps have been found. In case you are experiencing system crashes, it may be that crash dumps are prevented from being written out. Check out the following article for possible causes: If crash dumps are not written out. Read the topic general suggestions for troubleshooting system crashes for more information. Note that it's not always possible to state with certainty whether a reported driver is responsible for crashing your system or that the root cause is in another module. Nonetheless it's suggested you look for updates for the products that these drivers belong to and regularly visit Windows update or enable automatic updates for Windows. In case a piece of malfunctioning hardware is causing trouble, a search with Google on the bug check errors together with the model name and brand of your computer may help you investigate this further. [/quote]
     
    mikey33rs, Jan 18, 2018
    #29
  15. zbook New Member
    For the troubleshooting the more files there are the more information there will be for assessing the computer environment.
    The logs currently indicate that they were cleaned.
    During the troubleshooting process please check any/all of the cleaning software so that the files are not accidentally deleted.
    For startup and recovery > system failure > un-check automatically restart.
    For any BSOD please post a new zip:
    log collector v2-beta08.zip
     
    zbook, Jan 18, 2018
    #30
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